Originally Posted by redbull168
ok how about outside of WPN since that wasn't really the question....
I don't currently play outside of WPN so I wouldn't be the best to provide that advice. But I have years of experience outside of WPN and playing A10 despite the nits here thinking it is "garbage." I've won plenty of hands with it. But oddly enough, I've won plenty of hands with ANY 10, with 910 being the biggest winner for me.
My honest advice in a REAL game, such as a live game in a trustworthy casino would be to obviously only play it in good position unless you're feeling "cheeky" and most likely play it for whatever open the flow of the game dictates at that time, or call a reasonable open, again assuming you have position on whomever opened.
Then, if you opened AND have position, you might get away with seeing 4 if not all 5 cards with no additional investment needed. If you called someone down, it's a little trickier because depending on the level you might be able to get away with calling a single-barrel standard cbet (or, also a singl-barrel standard *delayed* cbet coming after the turn) and then reassesing from there.
The real problem you're going to find regardless of position or how you've played it is that you're very rarely going to find yourself in a spot where you "know" with a great deal of certainty where you stand. Many times, just because you paired up doesn't mean you're golden. If it was folded to your button or maybe, less conveniently, just a limp (or VERY WORST two) ahead before you opened preflop, you should feel confident and comfortable enough to make a decent enough (not crazy) cbet if you're fortunate enough to spike the ace. If you don't TID on the flop, though, unless you've gotten lucky with information during the hand, you're not likely to "know" you're good when called down here. So it is completely reasonable to play pot control small ball and even check it all the way down. Yes, of course, you are making yourself vulnerable to the player who called with one of the other 2 flop pairs to improve or even a worse ace to spike 2 pair. But that's poker and it's risk/reward. If you play this hand too fast and loose you're going to find yourself too often on the wrong end of AJ, AQ, AK killer.
You could chose to get tricky by semi-bluffing a gutshot broadway draw or something goofy like a 789 flop. Hitting the gutshot is more unlikely, but barring flush outs and board pairs you at least know you have the winning nuts. The 789 is another animal. You can live with spiking the 6 if you get called down, but you're now holding what is essentially a bluff catcher against a suddenly aggressive opponent. He could have been toying with you with the flopped nuts and praying that you like a 5 or 10 enough to stack off. Your other potential winning out is the jack. This is a little more palatable and should give you more confidence. But if your opponent leads out and shoves significantly (or all) on the river you're now left calculating if you're getting the right price to pay for a split and worrying that you just got really unlucky against the nuts 10Q.
ALL THAT BEING SAID, I have no problem playing it in the right spots and for some reason suited it just seems pretty sometimes. But don't expect ultimate glory when you do chose to play it. That is, unless your Sammy Farha vs Oliver Hudson (Goldie Hawn's son) on the very first hand of the Main Event and you have the pleasure of being up against 1010. Go ahead and check out this youtube video. If nothing else, it proves that folding a10 every single time it is dealt to you might not be the best decision.