How much time learning?

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Hey

I was just wondering what percentage of your poker time should be took up by learning instead of playing?
Obviously everybody is different and some learn quicker but I was just wondering a rough estimate?

Thankyou
 
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limited time

I usually try to study info on line about 45 to 60 minutes nightly. I am not good at discussing stradegy using the poker lingo with others, but now and then, I do learn info I want to add to my game. But by far the best teacher is always hands on experience at the poker table. lol
 
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Hey

I was just wondering what percentage of your poker time should be took up by learning instead of playing?
Obviously everybody is different and some learn quicker but I was just wondering a rough estimate?

Thankyou


Good question, and I dont have an answer....lol
As you stated, it is probably different for each individual. Ask 10 people, get 10 different answers.
The time I spend is learning is roughly about 1/3 of my poker time, and this includes game review. But sometimes I will spend much more time reviewing and reading, charting results, spotting leaks and looking for info on how to plug them. Sometimes I will play for a week with out doing much learning at all except for reading and videos.
My learning schedule changes constantly. I read a lot of books, and re-read them again. This never changes. The book selection depends on what I am focusing on ATM. I read anywhere I can - Train, doctor waiting room, hotels, any waiting time (I always have my current book with me, I even got a couple of chapters in in a freeway accident jam).
I review my games, if possible not long after playing so I am still fresh on why I did what I did, so I can easily spot my leaks and weak spots.
I read lots of stuff on CC and other internet sources.
The amount of time learning depends a lot on my game review as well. When I spot leaks and weak playing (sadly MUCH too often) then I will spend above average time reading up on how to repair them, and then will play a game trying to concentrate on when I would make these mistakes and spot them before I do.

OK, sorry, as I didnt really answer your question, but for me learning dictates its own needs a lot, and I try to pay attention to this. If I feel I am playing well, I play a bit more, but still read books and watch videos.

I have set myself a list of goals, (short, medium and long term) and even though I am updating them all the time, I follow them very religiously. I make short term learning goals, and when I have completed my tasks, immediately set new ones. Since I am still very much in the process of learning how to learn, it is ever changing. I think as long as you are trying to improve, and looking for guidance in places like CC, just working on your game and trying to find new sources of information will by default lead you in a positive direction.

Hope this helps........
 
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Great question. I play about 12hours per week on a strict schedule and I try to get in 3-4 hours per week of study. I like to reads books but I get overwhelmed so I stick to one or two books and reread them a few times. My iPod doesnt have much music on it. It does have about 4 hours of training vids on it right now. Not a lot cause, as I said, I get overwhelmed. I listen to the videos on my commute to work instead of music. I do this two or three times then later in the week, instead of watching High Stakes Poker, I watch the video and take notes and quiz myself. When I have a good grasp of the video, I move on.
I should admit that I am currently a losing player. Maybe I'll watch HSP.....
 
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To begin with its 50:50 maybe even more study than that.

However it should reduce to something like 80:20 in favour within a couple of months.

The reason for so much study at the start is simply that you dont know what you are doing and therefore need to do a lot more study.

Once you figure out what it is you are supposed to be doing then its a case of doing it better and gaining valuable experience.
 
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fletchdad I have set myself a list of goals said:
Thanx I am think I will write down my goals, maybe use a blog and so I can look back at it.

Thanx everyone for the comments :)
 
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Thanx I am think I will write down my goals, maybe use a blog and so I can look back at it.

Thanx everyone for the comments :)

Goals are good, but just pick one goal at a time.

I am going to 3-bet more

I am going to identify flops I can bluff on

I am going to....

once you pick a goal. Filter your hands in HEM so that you can see how often you do something and what your winrate is. Than play 5K hands and then look at how you are doing.

At the same time look for videos and articles relating to your goal.

The thing is not to try and work on 10 things at once because its far too complicated and ultimately wont work.

So every week you have something you are working on, dont spend too long on something either, you will be able to revisit it at a later date.
 
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well ,to me i always take my about 30 percentge of my time to play ,70 percent to learn,of course,i may improve the learning time,if i feel tired for the playing during some time.
 
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i dont study, well maybe i read a few pages every now and then, but i can't say i study anything. maybe reviewing you session is called studying?
 
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Personally I am terrible at studying but just getting back into academic work so hopefully that wil help my old brain get back into the swing of being able too.

One thing that happens to me is I will read many concepts at once and either get overwhelmed or instead of leaning one topic well, learn loads poorly. I think its good knowing your weaknesses and trying to learn how to plug the leaks you have and when you have a solid foundation learn something that rather than plugging a weakness is adding a strength, For example I used to and still do sometimes play a decent hand out of position and get re-raised and cannot or shouldnt call (which I did sometimes) and from a position of relative safety I would lose a third of my stack. So I stopped playing so many hands that way and did better. I was happy I had plugged a leak and improved my game or so I thought. I then realised I could play these hands in certain situations and that now I am doing better overall but in the games I was playing sometimes missing an oppotunity by becoming so regimented so I found a few spots where making this play aggresively was benificial. I found this by reading some stuff here and some books and gleaning several different lessons on observation table image and how the tight or loose the table is playing. I learnt these things one by one and then it all came together and helped me out.

Sort of like the Karate Kid, he cleans the cards, paints the fences and then when its all put together hes a bad ass :p
 
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One of the best ways to learn (at least for me) is to analyze my bad plays, in an attempt to see how I could have done it differently with a better outcome. Then try to use that analysis as soon as I can, maybe even within the same session (even better if against the same player)
 
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I study constantly. When I am not reading-practicing-I study the opponents at the table. It is a continual process.
 
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I do both at the same time. I'm constantly learning while I play.
 
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I usually do both, although I made some nice profits I ended up losing almost everything too, if there's one thing i have to improve roght now is bankroll management lol.

I think at the start you should do 75:25 ( study/play ), as you progress then 50:50
and finally 25:75.
 
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