how much money should I bring into the table!?

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if the table is $2/$4 NL a full table how much money should I bring into the table the minimum and maximum?!

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

I am a bit confused when it comes to the right bet amount. I heard that you must bet with a consistent amount whether your bluffing or betting for value to keep your opponents guessing on what cards you have so how much should I be betting should it be 4 times the BB?! 6 times the BB!? 2/3 of the POT!? or in general what situations calls for betting 4 times the BB betting 6 times the BB or betting 2/3 of the pot.

As you can tell I am a newby and a play tight aggressive (well try to be). I hope you guys can help me out
 
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100 Big Blinds (ie. $400) would be usual to bring to the table, but don`t play those stakes if you are a beginner. Unless you are an exceptionally fast learner, you will burn through thousands before you acquire enough experience to hold your own.
 
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ok thanks for the advice mate in general what situations calls for betting 4 times the BB betting 6 times the BB or betting 2/3 of the pot?!

also I have asked this in a different post but now one has replied yet so I want to ask you if you can help me what book would you recommend to start with
 
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forget $2/$4, IMO

maybe $.02/.$.04 ... even if you have the money to lose ... why just burn thru it ... there are plenty of good players at lower stakes, my suggestion would be to learn there, along with a good poker book

even then, u bring $4 to the table and if you have a bad nite and bust a few times that's $10 ... a bad week and that's $50, a bad month and well you get it ... multiply those amounts by 100 for 2/4

have fun/good luck!
 
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The amount number of bb you brings should depend on the game, your ability and the amount you are allowed. One local casino allows 50bb-200bb. I normally buy in enough to have everyone covered in these games. I play in a different game where the buy in in 100bb-500bb. I normally buy in to have most players covered but i do occasionally buy in at 200bb when certain people are at the table. If you are new and playing at this level you may want to buy in light and play a TAG game. Most of the time it will look like you just don't have the money and you will get called. You can always rebuy and/or add to your stack at anytime. I will read your other post to see if you added anymore info and try to help there.

Good pokers books for cash games: Sklansky NL hold'em and small stakes hold'em. Harrington on cash games 1 and 2, and his six max online book.

edit: don't bring more money than you can lose and always have enough to rebuy.

Are you playing live?
 
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thanks guys for your help

@seachicken: I have played online but right now I play homegames have you heard of phil gordons little green book I heard its good to
 
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hi m8,
I am no expert but here are a few thoughts on betting.

The amount you bet is based on your 'reads' on the other players in the hand.
in micro stakes, players (supposedly) are less attentive,
so betting the same amount (eg.3xBB) all the time,
could be considered a mistake, as the players are not paying attention anyway,
so you should vary your bets to the amount that you think they will call.
e.g. you get AA (any position) how much to raise ?
answer, as much as you think they will call.
if you think someone will call a shove ,then do that.
if you think they will call 5xBB then do that.
if you think a min raise will get 3bet so you can 4bet, then do that.
as the stakes get higher people pay attention and will watch your betting pattern, so you need to be more deceptive.
this is where 3xBB with most hands could be effective.
what i'm trying to say is, every hand is different.
the rules for bet sizing are not set in stone
try to figure out there 'range' and act accordingly.
hope this helps m8.
if anyone disagree's with any of this please post and enlghten me.
good luck m8
 
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thanks guys for your help

@seachicken: I have played online but right now I play homegames have you heard of phil gordons little green book I heard its good to

Phil Gordons little green book is not a bad read, nothing ground breaking but its a good starting point. I read it a few months ago but it was not a book i felt i needed to read again. For someone new it would probably be a good first book. Just remember one book will not solve all your problems. I would start with Phil Gordons book then read Sklansky No Limit Hold'em ( i have read it twice and still want to read it again). At some point you will also want to read Sklansky's theory of poker. You don't need to read them all at once and some of the books will require several readings along with playing to really comprehend.

Playing in homegames where you face the same opponents is going to be different challenge than playing online or at a casino. Everyone will get to know everyone's playing styles. Watch the consistent winners and try to figure out what makes their style a winner. Try to identify why a player is a loser. You will have to mix up your play more when playing against the same people every week. Try to avoid the consistent winners and isolate the losers. Try to sit with the loose players to your right and tight players to your left. Poker is about position and money flows around the table clockwise. Nothing wrong with taking the same guys money every night.

If you really want good advice give more details when asking questions. Tell people what type of game you are playing and any details you know. Don't be afraid to ask questions.
 
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I always play 100 big blinds, bottom line is that despite how well you play, you are going to see swings and every once in a while you get paid off with a nut hand and you need a full stack to win as much as possible in that situation.
 
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thanks for all your advice

reading phil gordons book now looks good for starting players and I like the way he writes I understand things better anyway thanks again guys for your help
 
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Hi bjornseo and welcome to CC

In my opinion, to learn the foundations of the game you will do better with a buy-in of 100BB regardless of the stakes. Reading poker books is good obviously but keep in mind that most books assume that players think and if you are playing micros, most don't. This means that sometimes you read something in a book, add it to your arsenal and it just goes wrong time and time again. This is especially true in the online micros.

Bet sizing is a great example: your bet size should be between 2/3 to 3/4 of the pot until you start to understand how a different size will change the pot geometry, odds, fold equity, princing in, yada yada yada. I personally bet 80% of the pot.

Opening is another. Most people feel that a 3BB open is standard. In the micros I open with 4BB.

Start at the lowest stake with a bankroll of around 20 buy-ins and build from there. Assuming you'll be playing micros, bet for value, don't bluff.
 
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