How much to bet pre flop?

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If I'm sitting on K,Qo in bad position should I bet/raise pre flop? If so how much in relationship to the BB or Pot? (of course in this scenario there likely isn't anything in the pot other than the Blinds and Antes. Pretty sure that's where I'm really killing my game. I always bet initially with "big cards" and very rarely does it pay off, other than when I make a continuation bet or bluff on a "check raise". Any thoughts? Thanks.
 
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KQo out of position rather not play fold

If I'm sitting on K,Qo in bad position should I bet/raise pre flop? If so how much in relationship to the BB or Pot? (of course in this scenario there likely isn't anything in the pot other than the Blinds and Antes. Pretty sure that's where I'm really killing my game. I always bet initially with "big cards" and very rarely does it pay off, other than when I make a continuation bet or bluff on a "check raise". Any thoughts? Thanks.

KQo out of position rather not play fold
 
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KQ are likely to be dominated if raised,but if you less than 10bb just shove.
 
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There is literally thousands of words written on this and in my days I've read most of it but the absolutely most sound advice given to plug leaks like this is written in a series of books written by Dan Harrington.
 
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in cash or tournament? what stack do you have, whats the dynamic? your image? thats all part of your play, but if there s a raise, you can easily fold
 
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The question I for me, too, to-date. How many people have many opinions on this matter. I still lean toward this game. If I'm in position and 1 or 2 people did raise, I made the call to see the flop raise and see further action opponents.
if they play passively, it is likely that they hold an ace and they are waiting for him). Then of course raise 4bet least if you have a coincidence. But if there is a raise, I throw off the hand.
 
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when somebody in from of me opens, in early position i fold with this cards. From MP i do open them.
 
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Obviously at a cash table your reads on the tables aggressive or passive nature will be the biggest decision maker but KQo is not in my range to open utg or close to it.
But if I'm at a six max with very passive players or people who decided to sit down with a "minimum buy in" for a quick double up I'll often push a raise with it.
 
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Yeah, but at my experience, 5NL zoom 6max, when you get a raise on them or raise with them and the flop doesn't connect you, you are losing money, because the hand doesn't have many strength on it's own.
 
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In a cash game with 100 bb stacks I would raise to 3 x the big blind. In a tournament with a stack size of 20bb or more I would raise between 2x and 2.5x and with a stack of 10bb or less i would just open shove.
 
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there is one important rule is never push or fold preflop you have good cards even more if you play in cash games
 
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if you think bet or fold it's easy fold
 
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Is limping an option?
In a live game on a passive table, sure.
Online the table would have to be extraordinarily passive, though. I doubt you'll ever find one like it.

And even if you do, this is still a very marginal hand to be playing from early position. If you play it, expect to fold it to a raise a fair amount of the time...
Depending on the table, this hand only enters my range in either the hijack or the seat before that (UTG in 6-max).
I'm not considering it in any of the first four positions full ring, unless I'm in a tourney and down to 10BB or less (in which case it's an open-shove)...
 
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I only play 6-max so I can't comment on full-ring.

When I'm UTG, the worst offsuit cards I'll open are: AJo, KQo and 55.

Thus KQo falls within my UTG opening range and I will make a standard 3bb raise.
 
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cards example KQ I bet tribet,stronger,AQ,AJ ALSO or fourbet,and strongesst hand I bet a little more.....
 
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The standard is 3x the bb.

Since table dynamics is case to case, have to adjust bet all the time.

As the game progresses, the table would soon set the standard bet.
 
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In this case would say to analyze the table before entering this hand, has weak players like to give over bets of 4-6bb with cleaner look 3bb players or even enter limp
 
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at the pre-flop better adhere to the following policies . or to put the same in all positions either earliest to put less and later put out more.
 
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