How to manage raising / calling charts ?

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My cash game education has come to the point where charts come into play.
Until now I decided to raise / call / fold based on my understanding of card strength, opponent range and position.
Turns out that there is charts that determines your every preflop move based on your position, opponents position and actions.
Holy God !
It is impossible to remember all this or put in any table with size less than Sahara desert.
One option would be to save them into Equilab, but AFAIK it is forbidden in Stars and maybe somewhere else.

So, my question is: How you deal with this problem (of course if you follow the charts while playing) ?
 
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To be honest, I have no idea what charts you are referring to and would love to see a link. If this is an excel format and you are trying to use for online games, I would think you could use a pivot or a filter option to narrow down to your position and hand when the cards come out. This would prolly take away your focus to much from the other dynamics happening while you are playing but might at least get you to learn the charts enough that you don't need to review them all the time.

Just a shot in the dark idea.
 
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This is much easier than it seems. Preflop is not so many situations - no more than a dozen options. A little bit of training and you will remember them all.

Most of these charts can be simplified to a few basic ranges. Use them depending on the aggressiveness of your opponents and the position at the table. The main game starts in the late streets, and then no charts and tables will help you.
 
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This is much easier than it seems. Preflop is not so many situations - no more than a dozen options. A little bit of training and you will remember them all.

Most of these charts can be simplified to a few basic ranges. Use them depending on the aggressiveness of your opponents and the position at the table. The main game starts in the late streets, and then no charts and tables will help you.

Yes, after a 1 days experience I'm thinking like you.
 
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To be honest, I have no idea what charts you are referring to and would love to see a link. If this is an excel format and you are trying to use for online games, I would think you could use a pivot or a filter option to narrow down to your position and hand when the cards come out. This would prolly take away your focus to much from the other dynamics happening while you are playing but might at least get you to learn the charts enough that you don't need to review them all the time.

Just a shot in the dark idea.

Something like this:
http://www.microgrinder.com/poker-strategy-articles/6-max-pre-flop-ranges/
 
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Dont follow charts, your play will become transparant and totally exploitable.

You have your poker "education" the wrog way round, as a total novice you might want to follow a strict range of hands in given positions, but as you progress you will learn how (and need) to apply ranges to various table dynmaics and villains. A hand might be playable in one dynamic, but totally unplayable in another, unless you understand this you will end up burning money by rigidly following charts.
 
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Dont follow charts, your play will become transparant and totally exploitable.

You have your poker "education" the wrog way round, as a total novice you might want to follow a strict range of hands in given positions, but as you progress you will learn how (and need) to apply ranges to various table dynmaics and villains. A hand might be playable in one dynamic, but totally unplayable in another, unless you understand this you will end up burning money by rigidly following charts.

IMHO you are talking about next level.
To abandon charts I must try them first :D
 
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One more thing I got from charts !

Dont follow charts, your play will become transparant and totally exploitable....


Before my chart period I was pretty loose payer, loose something, but I didn't even was aware of that.
When I started to follow charts I become TAG and start winning automatically, without changing anything else. :D
 
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I take some general guidance from these charts, but nothing more. There are way too many other factors that should influence your betting.
 
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