How to learn to fold top pair?

Greetings! Nverno this subject must be closed! But I do not like I can not bring myself and disposing these QQ,! Lose and lose, it is just not understandable, why? Why do they persist lose? And why I can not and disposing them?
Help advice how to learn to just throw in the trash QQ, Look, I already wrote a post about the loss of the top pair! https://www.cardschat.com/forum/poker-goals-challenges-wins-46/qq-return-duty-307682/

poliaris747 said:

Greetings! Nverno this subject must be closed! But I do not like I can not bring myself and disposing these QQ,! Lose and lose, it is just not understandable, why? Why do they persist lose? And why I can not and disposing them?
Help advice how to learn to just throw in the trash QQ

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focus less on your cards and more on your opponent when it comes to this type of decision.

Is your opponent playing tight, loose, passive, aggressive?

that probably will help only the internal thinking as it will tell you to do so,as online poker it is not predictable in the hands

I agree with Shinedown.45 you need to know your opponent maybe this book will help you Elements of Poker by Tommy Angelo (2007) — . Angelo, a well-respected pro player and coach examines poker from many different perspectives, including a total of 144 angles. His key concept is something called “reciprocality,” which means success comes from doing something different from what’s normal (or expected). In addition to containing lots of ideas you’ve probably never thought about before.

I agree you have to know something about your opponent. That is a very hard board to fold QQ, but you have to consider your opponent's style, and would they play AA, KK a set or 2 pair the same way. I know it is tough to lay down, but I have learned that sometimes a bad fold is better than a bad call. And consider this, but change the hands. Let's say you had AA, and your opponent turned over pocket JJ. Would you be talking about how to lay AA down? Because that is also a story you have to consider. Finally, sometimes, you just run into a cooler.

Hard, but imagine that you are in an expensive tournament on the bubble, then it is not hard to toss.

I can feel you, sometimes when I get QQ's almost wanna fold them. But study your opponent and trust your gut. Someday the QQ's will pay off when it will matter and wash away all the pain they caused.

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I just did a video on this yesterday. You're in a very similar spot. Check it out:

https://youtu.be/ywI3Hx5pW6o

poliaris747 said:

Greetings! Nverno this subject must be closed! But I do not like I can not bring myself and disposing these QQ,! Lose and lose, it is just not understandable, why? Why do they persist lose? And why I can not and disposing them?
Help advice how to learn to just throw in the trash QQ, Look, I already wrote a post about the loss of the top pair! https://www.cardschat.com/forum/poker-goals-challenges-wins-46/qq-return-duty-307682/

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For this situation specifically, it would be impossible to fold it if the pot werent built ridiculously. Your hand was getting better and better after the flop, turn, and a blank river. To fold on this situation (specifically), you had to take note about that player alr (his playstyle, etc...) to come up with the last solution.

For ex: if his betting was representing an over pair, and we had a J on the table so he might have QQ, KK, AA (tight player) or QK++ (loose player). Think about it.

In overall, folding the top pair happens when you can read opponents or when the existing cards are not supporting us but opening opponent's range.

How was the hand played out?

Sounds unlucky if you actually never do with QQ. I folded QQ to a huge 200 bb 5 bet jam the other day, I was sure he had a huge pair.... well he did have a huge pair, QQ also and he won a 270k pot... I was upset i folded. As far as you always losing with QQ goes I wouldn't fold it unless you think you have to. Sorry i didn't have much value to add to this post.

You will definitely want to be going all in with QQ. You will sometimes be beat by AA and KK but AK, AQ, AJ are all in worse spots vs QQ. If your opponent is REALLY tight then you have to fold that sometimes knowing that you are beat.

when I play in freerolls.. I don't toss them.. I have nothing to lose..i would rethink it in a big tourney or tables..hard decision

Sometimes you just run into a cooler. Its that simple. I'm sure I would have lost the hand just like you did. I really don't have a problem folding QQ with a K or A on the board and some resistance. On that board....just move on to the next hand....

when it happens, it happens..
dont tilt,move to the next hand

In freerolls when I get QQ i just go in - nothing to lose, when play with money and close to final table no problems to fold them.

Daidals said:

In freerolls when I get QQ i just go in - nothing to lose, when play with money and close to final table no problems to fold them.

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Hello! I just have started to keep statistics on how many times it loses top pair! We are taught that in the long run, the entire dispersion is aligned! I want to trace how long road that would all come into compliance with math? Or sometimes the math does not work? There are exceptions? Why this couple I have is losing contrary to the calculations?

you would be surprised...I have never seen anyone fold top pair top kicker

to learn fold top pairs, it is necessary for a start to learn to read ranges of the opponents and then it will become much simpler to make the decision.
but it isn't necessary to worry strongly from - for it, the usual cooler, happens to all

Put a hand chart poster on your wall, from 1 pair, to royal flush. Then just throw it away.

But really, you can see how someones is betting that hes holding pair. Now make sure he knows youre holding pair Hard bet. Then just make a decision after that. If you said to yourself, i knew he was holding AA, then you're not paying attention to yourself and your instinct.

A strong top pair is difficult to fold when there is nothing on the table, your posted table would be hard to read, many would not fold in that situation, only by seeing how your opponent has played can you make a informed decision

Padlington said:

A strong top pair is difficult to fold when there is nothing on the table, your posted table would be hard to read, many would not fold in that situation, only by seeing how your opponent has played can you make a informed decision

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In the initial stage the fish goes all in I understand it, with top pair want to double up, but I do not give a chance until a mathematical chance of winning! I wrote a check when will win?

mammadduke said:

when I play in freerolls.. I don't toss them.. I have nothing to lose..i would rethink it in a big tourney or tables..hard decision

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Every decision is always difficult, but we have to be courageous and decisive

Alessix3 said:

I agree with Shinedown.45 you need to know your opponent maybe this book will help you Elements of Poker by Tommy Angelo (2007) — . Angelo, a well-respected pro player and coach examines poker from many different perspectives, including a total of 144 angles. His key concept is something called “reciprocality,” which means success comes from doing something different from what’s normal (or expected). In addition to containing lots of ideas you’ve probably never thought about before.

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I will check this out, since I have the same problems..Thanks