How do you play pocket aces?

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Obviously depends on the situation, but what do you think is the best way to play pocket aces? do you always look to get your chips in pre flop? look to trap? Example of how i play them, if for instance i was in late position an ive got a number of limpers i would put a minimal raise in, hoping to get a couple callers to increase the pot before somebody thinks ive got a weak hand, ace rag etc and re-raises me, then i re-raise them all in hoping for it to look like a bluff.

Whats the best way?

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I raise them 3-4x BB preflop depending on the table and if I get 3bet I shove them. If someone calls depending on the board, if it is a safe board, I will bet pot, if there are flush/str8 draw possibilities, I shove.
 
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trapping with Aces is a bad idea...actually trapping in general is not a good idea unless you have a good lag to do it too.

This also depends but preflop i raise the same all the time, never limp, never min raise...
 
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All depends on position and players, seems whenever I slow play them I get beat & if I raise more than min everyone else folds.
 
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Play 'em hard and fast to take down the pot early.

Don't ever min raise when there are multiple limpers because with every caller the odds that your aces hold up goes down.

Also remember that aces are not invulnerable.
 
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well what i do is do the standard 3x raise just like any other hands, or if your already facing a raise the standard 3 bet of 3x their bet. i try to get as much value as i can out of them pre flop because thats when they are biggest faveriot. i think shoving on people will scare them way to much so stick to 3 betting or 4 betting whatever the case is. in low stakes i dont like setting many traps because there are alot of fish about and they call with alot of bad hands so value bet the sh*t out of them after the flop.
 
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The only time I might consider not raising with aces is when a raise would pretty much be the same as flipping my hand over and letting everyone know what I have. So, we're talking 5bet territory.

Like just a few hours ago, I open raised with my aces, some guy 3bets me and a rock 4bets. Here calling may be the optimal play, what I gain in deception is probably higher than what I risk in giving the rock a free flop. If undercards come, he'll probably be confident in committing himself to the pot with QQ.
I did 5bet though, and the rock took a really long time to call with KK (like I said, I basically just screamed I had aces). Fortunately he still called, unfortunately he sucked out on me... :(
 
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PLaying pocket aces correctly all depends on the table and the players. Obviously i want to get them all in against someone else as i know im going to be huge favourite. When i say depending on the players i mean ill slow play aces IF the table is very loose and people always raise. That way the pot should be quite big when comes back to me, then id reraise and get the fish out. But getting a call from original raiser or someone will go all in. If table tight not many raises preflop id just raise 3 bb. But would never slow play unless i know someones else will raise creating a bigger pot for me to then reraise. I dont want to raise and them all to fold. But i play the same i always raise the same. so they could put me on ak or 99 i always raise 3 bb and if tight table do the same. They wouldnt put me on aces as so many hands i raise 3 bb with. So sometimes id be reraised, and depending on the player id shove or id just reraise again. Always raise what you normally would then would be very hard for them to know your holding the rockets.
 
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If I am late to act CO-BB I will push if I get 3-4 limpers in front of me. A lot of the time I will get 1-2 callers and this is exactly where I want to be.

Yes I ply in very loose games for the most part.

If you get to play in games where it it is poker and not bingo or scratch off lotto than I imagine you want to re raise at least pot vs a group and limpers and maybe go for the shove against a 3 bet as well
 
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Always raise 3x the big blind or reraise if someone before has raise.. If u allowa alot of players the odds to come in preflop your chances of having the best hand after the flop decreases. if you notice theres a aggresive player on your table i would trap a few times and stack them.
 
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play it aggressive and protect them. triple blind raise or reraise with preflop, if someone raised in front of you. With to many players in the pot the risk is high the Aces could be cracked and then you wish you would have raised them.
 
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Play 'em hard and fast to take down the pot early.

arrrrrrrrrrrgh


you don't want to "take down the pot early" you want to build a massive pot so you can win someone's stack



arggggggggh



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arrrrrrrrrrrgh


you don't want to "take down the pot early" you want to build a massive pot so you can win someone's stack



arggggggggh



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Yes of course you want to push the action pre and see if you can get them to shove on you, but my statement was geared to imply that you don't want to have multiple callers and get into a mess with them. I say that esp. because I play 2NL(which I'm sure is way beneath you), where its hard to put players on ranges and you can easily lose with your AA to complete garbage if you aren't representing strong enough. Hope that makes sense. I wasn't implying you should open shove them.


**EDIT** BTW, that skeleton doing the worm is gangsta!
 
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Just to add...

AA vs one opponent: you win 80% of the time
AA vs 3 opponents: you win ~65% of the time

Basically as others have said, the more opponents you face at the flop, the higher chance you have of your AA being busted.

Also I'll never just call with my AA. I will always raise or reraise. I know that I currently have the best hand and I will not be pushed around at this stage. And if I get 3 bet, I'm shoving in response.

That said, I am considering a different strategy for HU play though I don't think I've ran into AA then...but in that case, I'm leaning towards trapping with them instead. Something for me to think about...
 
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i like to isolate only 1 person so i raise 4-5 times the bb and push on a 3 bet. your not a favorite if 3 people call so you have to keep the amount of people small
 
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Obviously depends on the situation, but what do you think is the best way to play pocket aces? do you always look to get your chips in pre flop? look to trap? Example of how i play them, if for instance i was in late position an ive got a number of limpers i would put a minimal raise in, hoping to get a couple callers to increase the pot before somebody thinks ive got a weak hand, ace rag etc and re-raises me, then i re-raise them all in hoping for it to look like a bluff.

Whats the best way?

Paul

I am conflicted. See, I love it when people do this. I honestly do. Most of the time by the time everyone finishes limping/calling the small raise you put out, there is usually such a large pot that the guy with AA is goin all-in post flop anyways, and the guy who limpped with KQ is sitting on 2pr.

What conflicts me here is now I have to go and tell you why doing this is not a good idea (aside from the above example).

First of all, when you just raise small after a few (let's say 2) limpers, it screams you have either AA/KK, a pp, usually 7 or lower, or A rag. Now think about what's in the pot so far. We'll use 25/50 blinds (in tourney format) SB+BB+BB+BB=175 + raise(100)= 275. Now let's say that nobody already in the pot folds, they just call your bet. There is now 500 in the pot PF. Do you really think you have any idea where you stand in the hand now?

Here's an example using some specific hands that players will limp then call a small raise with: You have AhAc. SB has 55, BB has KQs, and the next two players each have Ad7d and 89os, respectively. You have position and your current equity in the hand is a slight bit over 49%.

Flop: 5c, 7s, 2s.

Looks like a great flop for aces, but on a board like this your equity shrinks to just under 8%.

With a flop of: As, 10c, 2s, you are in much better shape, roughly 73%, but a flop with an ace in it is very unlikely if one of your opponents has an ace as well.

Now say they all check to you. How much to bet? Too little any draw is going to chase, too much and a made set/2pr hand is going to call anyways, not at all and you're giving everyone a free card. So say you bet 250 (1/2 pot) and you get called twice. pot is now well over 1000 chips and you still have no idea where you stand. See where I'm going with this?

Granted this is a worst case scenario with the flopped set of 5's against you, but it is entirely within the realm of possibility, and I've seen countless bad beat stories here on CC that pretty much all resemble the stated example.

Now back to that 3-bet/shove thing. If somebody 3-bets against your small raise, then they are more than likely gonna call a shove (in the mocro's anyways). That is great. But I can determine with great certainty that this dosn't happen nearly enough for the situation to be counted on, but you remember it because it rocks when it happens. Most of the time raising small with limpers ends up with a bad beat story.

The exact raise amount to use is determined by many factors, but generally, raise with AA the same amount you would raise any other raising hand in that particular situation. Remember that the more players in the hand diminishes your equity, but also potentially increases the chance of winning a whole stack. Just don't forget that it is still only a one pair hand unless it improves.
 
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Personally, I have gotten gun shy of pocket aces as well as most other pocket pairs. It seems no matter how I play them, the majority of the time I get beat. With pocket aces I have the best hand pre flop but after that??????? I will see the flop but if my hand does not radically improve, depending on calls and raises, I am gone.

I raise pre flop and get a lot of folds and sometimes a lot of calls. If I get a lot of calls, then I have to think about this post flop. It seems to never fail that someone calls with rags and beats my pocket pair.

Ths others have given some good advice. This is just my opinion and what generally happens with my pocket aces.
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Just to add...

AA vs one opponent: you win 80% of the time
AA vs 3 opponents: you win ~65% of the time

This is true, but assuming you have equal stacks, with one opponent you're looking at an 80% chance of doubling your stack, or an EV of 1.6x your stack. With 3, you have a 65% chance of tripling your stack, or an EV of 1.95x your stack.

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Just to add...

AA vs one opponent: you win 80% of the time
AA vs 3 opponents: you win ~65% of the time

Basically as others have said, the more opponents you face at the flop, the higher chance you have of your AA being busted.

Also I'll never just call with my AA. I will always raise or reraise. I know that I currently have the best hand and I will not be pushed around at this stage. And if I get 3 bet, I'm shoving in response.

That said, I am considering a different strategy for HU play though I don't think I've ran into AA then...but in that case, I'm leaning towards trapping with them instead. Something for me to think about...

damn it this is what i was going to say.
 
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usually a 3xbb raise or reraise on any limpers and hope for the best on a dry board
 
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Aggressively preflop no doubt. Postflop is where you start to run into situations where you can win a little more, or lose your whole stack against good players, likewise you can win a stack against the fish on a k93 board when the fish has kj. Postflop it just depends on your opponents,your image and the stack sizes involved.
 
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I will always only min raise with AA, Now if somebody has the balls to open before me I will test them. In the rare case where a group of limp fish enter before me I will shove.

This is a memo update.....DJ Minraises AA......

No excuses, you have seen the memo.........
 
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I usually raise at least 3x the big blind and hope that someone reraises me all in. Its the best to have them when you are first to act because the chances of someone reraising increases and you will be in good shape to double or even triple up.
 
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For me really depends on position and of course other players if it is an overagressive table and i have them utg or utg+1 ill limp or min raise. after that ill open for 3x bb and if in cutoff i like to bet 4x . However if im playing like that any hand i deem playable will also get the same bet from same positions i mentioned above, helps disquise my hands betting on position as opposed to hand strength. But of course if someone reraises in front of me i prefer to reraise however many times they will rebet at me. Obviously this theory needs to either be tweeked or abandoned altogher depending on other players styles at the table. Not a fan of sloplaying aces in general though Id rather take down a small pot or even just the blinds than take a big hit to a set or str8 or flush that hits letting people in cheap.
 
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I will always only min raise with AA, Now if somebody has the balls to open before me I will test them. In the rare case where a group of limp fish enter before me I will shove.

This is a memo update.....DJ Minraises AA......

No excuses, you have seen the memo.........


what other hands do you minraise with? many players give away lots of information by raising different amounts with different hands. minraising is a good way of getting people suspicious and fold. Therefore I think its better to do a standard 3xbb raise with AA and reserve minraises (if ever) for late position A rags and other pretty poor hands to get people confused
 
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