How do you deal with small tilts?

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i play only cash games as i ma trying to improve my cash game it is harder than it seems but i can feel progress

i reached 100 usd by freerolls and some luck
but then i started to play only cash games 2-5 cents i kept making like 5 usd /day then when i reached 150 i started playing 5-10 cents i reached 200 usd in like 6 days , then i got bad beat or 2 , then followed by emotional bad decisions to go back to 130 in just 2 days , so 2 days wipe alot of the hard work i am doing

my question how u deal with this kind of situations

i know people will say control urself or take a break , and yes i did , but should it be like long break when do u stop playing , do u have kind of stop loss
 
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Rehanov.... first of all congratulations on your achievements so far. I'm sure you have noticed the difference between tournament play and cash game play!

Anyway... how to beat tilt? Do you understand the probability involved in poker? If so, you should not get tilted! Every situation has a probability to it and just because your AA does not hold up against a 72o shouldn't tilt you, as even that hand has some probability. Yes the way the hand was played may not reflect the odds, but you have to remember that to some people, poker is a way of putting a bet on something happening, even at crazy odds that sometimes pays off!

If this keeps happening, then walk away. Take a break of a day or so and refocus your mind on reality. Don't chase results and don't chase losses.... that will lead to all your hard work being undone very quickly.

Most of all, analyse the losing hand and work on what you could have done differently, not necessarily better, but that should perhaps be the aim.... to do better next time. But try and understand where the hand went wrong and keep it clinical rather then personal and that will also prevent tilt.

Good luck.

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When i feel like ive beenbad beat or out played i nirmally take 3 days as a break. I wait until I understand the situation that happened and come up with multiple pays that I could have made to avoid that particular situation.
 
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I think we all have had those times when we could play any 2 cards and win. Then we think we are the best player in the world, and that's where it starts. Just like you done, we get in a hurry to move up and surely as good as we are, we will trip up our BR in a short time. Well it just don't work out like we have planned, so if you still have a BR, get back to the low level and consider your BR first before any thing else. I can't say that good BRM will be all you need to reach any goal you may have, but I can say that using good BRM will allow you to play the next day. And this is a fact. Without learning and using good BRM, you will go broke and stay that way. GL to you
 
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i know people will say control urself or take a break , and yes i did , but should it be like long break when do u stop playing , do u have kind of stop loss
As a starting player what I ended up doing, is that when I lose a big pot I take a break right away. The length of the break depends how I feel, better I get and better form I am the shorter the break is, usually though it’s around 2 min but sometimes 10 seconds and even days in extreme cases. Funnily enough I ended up doing the same thing right after big win too =)

It takes quite a self-study to realize when you are up to game again. All good vibes are not actually good vibes.

I don’t believe the nonsense that you can control feelings, feelings are emotions and emotions are non-controllable for all but most refined hindi guru. Suppressing feeling is not same than controlling feelings, and suppressing feelings surely makes you play differently. What happens in time though due repetitions and adaptation is that once so world breaking bad things like losing with AI with AA against K6s just make you laugh; Well the micro break is still in order =)

If you take a bit hit, yes you know it, take a break (as long as you need, knowing yourself part a poker skill), study game, drop level to gain self-confidence, jump back, be little shaky first and recover finally.

Final note, sometimes what happens (for me at least) is that you start to scare a bit to play. I ended up playing just couple of hands first day no longer than I felt good enough, next day more, until about 5th day it felt almost normal again.
 
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have you heard about 1 minute meditation? it always helps me. you empty your mind just for a moment and you can focus again on your strategy
 
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As a starting player what I ended up doing, is that when I lose a big pot I take a break right away. The length of the break depends how I feel, better I get and better form I am the shorter the break is, usually though it’s around 2 min but sometimes 10 seconds and even days in extreme cases.

It is very likely that you are making a mistake. Success and failure follow one after another. Very often, after an unsuccessful hand, the hand that compensates for it follows. I do not want to discuss this as a feature of the RNG, just take note. You must learn how to play your game, and not panic after each unsuccessful hand. This is especially not true, because you do not learn how to play many tables. You can not quit playing at other tables, just because you lost one pot. :cool:
 
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It is very likely that you are making a mistake.

Well I'm slow learner, I rather make my long learning process more enjoyable than push to the limit. I agree that this is slower method than just playing. Anyways, I have a mouse button to programmed to switch between sit out and sit back all tables, so it only really takes 0.1 sec to do and thus does not really cause extra work. I play zoom though, things are easier there I guess.

Oh and I'm the word's slowest note taker too, so I use the same sit-out button to think it over and make notes.
 
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that was rly quite helpful guys
but apparently no one make a stop loss station if he reached he take the rest of the day off , or even more days
if so , what would be ur stoploss
 
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The level you pick is up to you and the bankroll you wish to be at. For example, if your bankroll is $130., and you are playing .05/.10 cash games, you might want to set your stop loss at $10.00 for the day, and your win limit at $25.00 or set a time limit of 3 hours. Then stick to your objectives, regardless of how the game is going. I don't know how many times I hit my win limit and kept playing, only to lose it all on one bad beat. Stick to your own limits, and you generally will be successful, assuming your game is good enough.
 
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well yea
i will make some rules to follow and see if i will improve
 
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I read the title as "how u deal with small tits"
 
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i know people will say control urself or take a break , and yes i did , but should it be like long break when do u stop playing , do u have kind of stop loss

I can't write anything meaningful here myself as I am not really good at mental aspect of poker. And frankly I don't think that you will get deep understanding of this subject on the forum, but there are two books written about that subject:
https://www.amazon.com/Mental-Game-Poker-Strategies-Confidence-ebook/dp/B005RZRHDG/ref=sr_1_1

https://www.amazon.com/Mental-Game-...istently-ebook/dp/B00CH3I5QE/ref=pd_sim_351_1

I haven't read them myself tbh, but I have first of them on my list and reviews are quite promising. It has whole chapter about tilt and it has a lot of other stuff like learning, fear, confidence etc. etc. So I think your best shot right now is to read vol 1 :)

I don’t believe the nonsense that you can control feelings, feelings are emotions and emotions are non-controllable for all but most refined hindi guru. Suppressing feeling is not same than controlling feelings, and suppressing feelings surely makes you play differently.

You can definitely at least try :) Feelings are bounded to our physiology, it is of course hard to be stone cold when bluffing just by thinking "ok, I should be calm here", but there are some techniques that you can try to trick your body (like steady breathing).

 
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i play only cash games as i ma trying to improve my cash game it is harder than it seems but i can feel progress

i reached 100 usd by freerolls and some luck
but then i started to play only cash games 2-5 cents i kept making like 5 usd /day then when i reached 150 i started playing 5-10 cents i reached 200 usd in like 6 days , then i got bad beat or 2 , then followed by emotional bad decisions to go back to 130 in just 2 days , so 2 days wipe alot of the hard work i am doing

my question how u deal with this kind of situations

i know people will say control urself or take a break , and yes i did , but should it be like long break when do u stop playing , do u have kind of stop loss
For me is easy: when I go on tilt, I tend to play loosely and lose more money. That is the way I deal with that :)
 
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You can definitely at least try :) Feelings are bounded to our physiology, it is of course hard to be stone cold when bluffing just by thinking "ok, I should be calm here", but there are some techniques that you can try to trick your body (like steady breathing).
Well the first is about adapting oneself, second is changing your way (I guess, I did not look them thourgh only skimmed, anyways changing behaviour is needed and that is too late if you feel something) and your example is about suppressing feelings. Don’t get me wrong, controlling feelings is noble goal, but surely there are more acute areas to learn to improve your EV. Anyways I would guess that learning how to control your feelings and teaching it for others would make you more money than being winning NL200 player, so maybe it’s a skill to prioritize over poker.

Surely at least I would be happier if capable to control feelings, I would myself happy every day every hour.
 
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i play only cash games as i ma trying to improve my cash game it is harder than it seems but i can feel progress

i reached 100 usd by freerolls and some luck
but then i started to play only cash games 2-5 cents i kept making like 5 usd /day then when i reached 150 i started playing 5-10 cents i reached 200 usd in like 6 days , then i got bad beat or 2 , then followed by emotional bad decisions to go back to 130 in just 2 days , so 2 days wipe alot of the hard work i am doing

my question how u deal with this kind of situations

i know people will say control urself or take a break , and yes i did , but should it be like long break when do u stop playing , do u have kind of stop loss
My best luck has been to play a few small stakes blackjack hands or a few small dice rolls, My dice game is much better than my C poker game when im tilted.
 
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The first time I saw the thread title, i saw small tits for sure lol. But when i get sucked out on or coolered, i try and remember that if I got it in ahead and lost, that I will win more chips then I lose in the long haul and that I cannot do anything about it. It is tough to not want to play any 2 cards the next few hands after getting most of you stack ripped from you, but i've myself have and have seen people with 2-5BB come back and final table an mtt after such a hand. so continue to play your A game and grind on.
 
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i totally feel you, i got so many bad beats in live poker. A guy called me with a runner runner flush draw with my pair aces and caught it for a $400 pot in 1-2 live poker. one of the most tilting moment of my poker experience.
 
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Well the first is about adapting oneself, second is changing your way (I guess, I did not look them thourgh only skimmed, anyways changing behaviour is needed and that is too late if you feel something) and your example is about suppressing feelings.

I am sorry, but I wrongly pasted first video ;( It is still quite interesting, but not that useful. I wanted to paste two parts of the second video. It is mostly about that if you can control your physiology (tl;dr just by steady rhythmic breathing), you can control your feelings. Not from being heated to being calm, but from anxiety / anger to determination / focus. According to that guy the heart rate is similar (120 bpm), but the heart rate rhythm is what differs those states (erratic = negative, coherent = positive). Take a look at the second video about 20:00.

It helps me at the poker table, maybe it doesn't help all of the people, but worth trying imho ;)

 
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stop playing for a while! if a bad-beat changes your game the best reaction is stop playing! and you will start again when you feel calm!
 
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