How do you deal with idiot players

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I am losing my mind and alot of huge pots getting my money in good and getting rivered by riduculously ludicrous hands pocket queens beat by a double gutshot draw kk against Ace rag and the ace always comes on the flop.
I am really ready to just cash the hell out take my money and quit, not only do these any 2 card push and pray jerks suck out 90% of the time they think they play good poker
I am seriously angry right now and seriously fed up.
 
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concentrate on the positives..... you are getting it in good as a massive favourite and that's what you want to be doing. if they suck out then i know it sucks but just keep getting it in good and all will be alright.
 
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Play ABC style
and brainless crushed idiot:D
 
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Put them on your friends list and sit at their table as often as posible.
 
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I am losing my mind and alot of huge pots getting my money in good and getting rivered by riduculously ludicrous hands pocket queens beat by a double gutshot draw kk against Ace rag and the ace always comes on the flop.
I am really ready to just cash the hell out take my money and quit, not only do these any 2 card push and pray jerks suck out 90% of the time they think they play good poker
I am seriously angry right now and seriously fed up.






So, you have a bunch of fools calling your good hands with junk & your pissed. I must be missing something here, try saying that out loud & see if it still sounds rational.:confused:
Variance is a biatch, sir, but if your getting your money in good you will be fine. Say, nice hand, put e'm on your buddy list & watch your bankroll grow.
 
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nothing u can do against this idiots but be happy thet there still doing stuff like this :eek::eek:
 

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Relax sir.

Online, the fishes like sharks but sharks hate fishes.

Agree above, just play ABC poker to them since they cant understand good plays.
 
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I am losing my mind and alot of huge pots getting my money in good and getting rivered by riduculously ludicrous hands pocket queens beat by a double gutshot draw kk against Ace rag and the ace always comes on the flop.
I am really ready to just cash the hell out take my money and quit, not only do these any 2 card push and pray jerks suck out 90% of the time they think they play good poker
I am seriously angry right now and seriously fed up.


Losing top pair to a double gutshot is not a ludicrous loss. Your opponent basically wins one time in three there. OMG, the sky is falling! KK vs. Ace rag is the same situation.

IMO, you should quit playing, as you clearly don't have the mental strength to handle the variance component of poker. People that start where you appear to be starting from almost never develop that mental strength. They are fine when they run good. Thye build their bankroll during that period. Then they run bad, tilt, and give it all away. Deposit, repeat. Deposit, repeat.

Sorry, but that's my honest advice --- and I'm an online pro.

-HooDooKoo
 
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work on your inner game/poker psychology. Strategy/statistics/probability the outer game. Both are important in any aspect of life. Inner/Outer games.
 
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DO NOT bluff, semi bluff all draws much smaller and when you make a decent hand, a hand that you believe to be much better than his range or one where he is drawing then smash in the bets i mean like 70-200% of the pot! ye son the turn you can certainly over bet! Example:

you have TT flop comes JT2 two diamonds you (was playing lets say to make things easu .50/$1) pre flop you raise to $6 he calls from BB, SB folded so pot is $13

flop you bet $10 they calls turn is a brick a black 4. The fish has likely got a whole bunch of hands they are not folding:
AJ,KJ,QJ,JT,J9,J8,AT,KT,QT,T9,T8,T7,AK,AQ,KQ,K9,T9,Q9,78 (all suited and unsuited) if they are a fish they struggle to fold 90% of those hands...
Now throw in the fact that if they are really bad they may still be looking to call 55/66/77/88/99...
Also they have so many AX KX QX and suited connector flush draws...

So along with you having a really nutty looking hand on the turn it is also vulnerable to a bad river card but at the same table it is a hand you can really get max value from so with the pot on the turn beind $33 you can safely go ahead and bet $30-$65 if they fold not the worst you may fold out some of his good equity (obviously want a call) if they call you have charged them a terrible price to draw if the draw comes in youre in position and if they lead you can decide what you want to do... if it bricks off usually the pot is big enough for you to get the rest of their money!!
 
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The best strategy against complete idiots: don`t play against them. I was playing 1/2 and the whole table was gambling. I should`ve left.
 
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Seriously guys, no hand is invulnerable but if some guy wants to call your monster with 10 2 that's fricking awesome. Would you rather have everyone fold?
 
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The best strategy against complete idiots: don`t play against them. I was playing 1/2 and the whole table was gambling. I should`ve left.

This is by far the WORSE advice.

No offense, but you must be quite bad yourself if you're wanting to quit or not play idiot players because that's where all the money is at.
 
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fish are a necessary good !!!! a poker player has to be focused to get the juice in the plays.
 
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I am losing my mind and alot of huge pots getting my money in good and getting rivered by riduculously ludicrous hands pocket queens beat by a double gutshot draw kk against Ace rag and the ace always comes on the flop.
I am really ready to just cash the hell out take my money and quit, not only do these any 2 card push and pray jerks suck out 90% of the time they think they play good poker
I am seriously angry right now and seriously fed up.

Since you can not control your emotions, and haven't played enough to understand this stuff happens a lot, you have already lost the poker game.. And you lost it to them, those very folks you hate to play against.

So, save yourself, cash out now. Learn how to play tiddlywinks.
 
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This is by far the WORSE advice.

No offense, but you must be quite bad yourself if you're wanting to quit or not play idiot players because that's where all the money is at.

Not going to have a discussion with a keyboard warrior who cannot read a sentence properly. There r idiots and there r COMPLETE idiots like i said. If the whole table is gambling pre flop, ur not going to play poker. The point of playing cash is the post flop strategy. There is a huge difference between quitting and selecting your opponents.
 
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its frustrating, but try to remember you want to play with the fishes

the fish dont always dirty you on the river, its just human nature to remember odd occurences more than the normal ones

dont hate fish- put tartar on them
 
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HMMMM this sounds like a familiar situation a lot of players go threw but few really figure it out . the answer is one you more then likely not believe . I will be straight out about it and we can see if you can work on it .

Its how and what you do in previous hands and what them players think about you your style and how comfortable they are playing against you .
HMMMM comfortable what would I mean by that? are they able to do and play what they want at the table then they are comfortable and will contend any one on the table when they want too .

Sounds absurd and ridiculous but you know what it the truth and all I can say Is look deeper into your reads and play. what does your play or moves at the table do to the others and how does it make them feel about your play and your style? Oh yea dont ask yourself this ask some one watching you. You just might find out what you think is not what they think .

Ok enough for now look at your play and and see what you may be able to do different to get you a better edge then just shoving every time your ahead or calling on top pair all in and your quite sure what they will do.

All depends on how much you want to put into your game and how far you plan on going.

Have a good Day and my the poker gods be with you
 
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Idiots are tough to play when they're schooling but would you be unhappy if there were 3 callers with rags vs your AA?
 
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This is by far the WORSE advice.

No offense, but you must be quite bad yourself if you're wanting to quit or not play idiot players because that's where all the money is at.

Not going to have a discussion with a keyboard warrior who cannot read a sentence properly. There r idiots and there r COMPLETE idiots like i said. If the whole table is gambling pre flop, ur not going to play poker. The point of playing cash is the post flop strategy. There is a huge difference between quitting and selecting your opponents.

Keyboard warrior? eh? Just stating a fact, nothing macho about my comment. It's terrible advice or strategy to leave a table if it's full of idiots gambling. This is the most ideal table to ever want to play at.

I'm sorry, but can you explain your sentence to me then because you basically said "Don't play with idiots who want to gamble" how is that me not reading it correctly?

Yes, if people are gambling pre flop, you widen your range for value and call of lighter, this isn't gambling you're taking a +EV spot just like any other. Yes, cash game is a lot of post flop strategy, however if you're incapable of playing vs a wide range of hands pre flop vs terrible hands then you stand no chance post flop so shouldn't even be playing cash games to start with if you struggle vs the worse of players.

If you don't wish to play these sort of players, then you're in a the wrong game because this is why poker is profitable, people calling to much pre flop and making mistakes post flop. It's impossible to not be more profitable vs these players than say vs TAG who actually have some solid pre and post flop play.
 
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depending on the situation of the match because if we are in 3 handed or heads-up look at the amount for which you are going to play and an ROI of what might collect, then I look at the degree of edge you have against that player and if it is worth risk the amount instead of making a deal, look equally touches many facets including the type of player and hands played against!

good luck to all in the tables!
 
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Keyboard warrior? eh? Just stating a fact, nothing macho about my comment. It's terrible advice or strategy to leave a table if it's full of idiots gambling. This is the most ideal table to ever want to play at.

I'm sorry, but can you explain your sentence to me then because you basically said "Don't play with idiots who want to gamble" how is that me not reading it correctly?

Yes, if people are gambling pre flop, you widen your range for value and call of lighter, this isn't gambling you're taking a +EV spot just like any other. Yes, cash game is a lot of post flop strategy, however if you're incapable of playing vs a wide range of hands pre flop vs terrible hands then you stand no chance post flop so shouldn't even be playing cash games to start with if you struggle vs the worse of players.

If you don't wish to play these sort of players, then you're in a the wrong game because this is why poker is profitable, people calling to much pre flop and making mistakes post flop. It's impossible to not be more profitable vs these players than say vs TAG who actually have some solid pre and post flop play.

Keyboard warrior!!!!!!!!! LMAO:D
 
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Everyone gets bad beats and suckouts, it's all part of the game, and you will never stop idiots from calling or pushing all in with garbage. It is up to you to decide wether or not you wish to call such play and play the crap shoot.
All too often with 3 or more in an all in shove, it is usually the worst hand that comes out on top lol.
 
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Actually the favourite (best hand) wins usually.
 
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