HOW TO DEAL WITH CRAZY PLAYERS IN TOURNAMENTS

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How do you deal with crazy players going all in every hand or almost every hand early in tournaments? It usually happens in freerolls, and low limits, but I've seen it happening even in mid size buy in tables. If you look down at a decent hand like AQ should you call? Lately I've been calling a lot and getting the better end pre-flop but have been losing post flop. I know I'm right with the call, but play like this has ended many tournaments for me as of late and I'm beginning to re-question the answer to this. I know almost anytime you call with the better hand it's a good call but I wonder if you should just stay away from crazy players at the start, unless you have the goods, and wait until the mid rounds so you can try to use skill instead of just racing cards. I don't know.... What do ya'll think?
 
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im no expert but from what ive seen and read normally in that situation since it happens so much you should probably fold unless you ahve a upper pair in your hand.

Folding for the first few rounds might actually help you anyway if you have nothing, alot of the all in guys will be out and the game will be flowing better
 
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Stay patient. If he has unlimited range wait for a high pocket pair or evade him as long as you can. Usually they don't go deep into a tourney because they don't have any skill. They knock themselves out often, too.
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I agree with the other guys.

You need to stay patient.

Also, you need to accept that from time to time you will get in with the best of it against these guys and they will suck out.
 
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I agree with all of the above.....unless i have pocket rockets i wont call an allin on the first hand...been screwed too many times myself from it...let the crazies play out and then get it on
 
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SchlomoSmack said:
How do you deal with crazy players going all in every hand or almost every hand early in tournaments? It usually happens in freerolls, and low limits, but I've seen it happening even in mid size buy in tables. If you look down at a decent hand like AQ should you call? Lately I've been calling a lot and getting the better end pre-flop but have been losing post flop. I know I'm right with the call, but play like this has ended many tournaments for me as of late and I'm beginning to re-question the answer to this. I know almost anytime you call with the better hand it's a good call but I wonder if you should just stay away from crazy players at the start, unless you have the goods, and wait until the mid rounds so you can try to use skill instead of just racing cards. I don't know.... What do ya'll think?
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fırst tıme call call /raıse then stop and waıt same people call u or raıse to you then u must be take :D BUT too much crazy thnk just rısk good luck to table
 
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quryPOT said:
fırst tıme call call /raıse then stop and waıt same people call u or raıse to you then u must be take :D BUT too much crazy thnk just rısk good luck to table
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Huh???
 
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everyone here seems to be on the same line of thought that I am. I look at it like this... If this were later rounds in a high buy in tourney and someone was all in preflop (whether it be utg, reraise etc.), I held AQ and it was going to cost most or all of my chips. I'm folding unless I'm shortstacked or pot committed. Play your normal game! don't call the maniacs all in just because he's a maniac with a large range.
 
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fold more and be more paitent because they will donk their chips eventually
 
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Boy can I relate to your frustration,
I find it most benificial to sit out for the first 1/2 hour.
I watch my cards and try to jump in with high pocket pair.
Seems to me that watching the donk off is kinda fun. For tagging purposes. Later when you bump into them you can use it to fight them with, because for the most part, anyone who jumps into the fire is not a very tallented player.
Best of luck in all you do, Bearcat
 
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This happens all the time to me as well. Just sit back and be VERY patient. Until he goes out for playing dumb or until you get AA KK or QQ. then its your turn to push
 
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give it time

pateince...wait until u pick up something lyke aa-10's or ak aq then play a pot iwth him..trap him..and dont bluff
 
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i have found that the early all inners are in the lower cost trnys and it doesnt matter if you have a premium hand its get lucky ....yes i like to inter with jj or better but sooooo many times in those situations my aa kk or whatever gets beat by j7:deal:
 
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It depends on how far you've gone in the tournament. Calling all-ins in the beginning of tournaments is risky if you don't have A-A or K-K, and perhaps A-Ks, even though this hand plays bad in multi-pots. As long as you have at least 20 BBs and no antes, there is no real reason to risk your whole stack for a coinflip. And remember that A-Q only plays well against A-x, with x being equal to or lower than J. All pocket pairs have the edge against your hand, and it's dominated by Q-Q, A-A, K-K and A-K. However, if your stack is equal to or less than 10 BBs, it's an easy call, and if nobody has gone all-in when it's your turn, you should move all-in.
 
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THANKS fOR THE ADVICE>>>> I WILL APPLY THE WAIT THEORY FOR TEH FIRST FEW ROUNDS UNLESS I HAVE ONE OF THE TOP FIVE hands>> THAT WAY I'M SURRE TO AVOID FRUSTATIOn FROM GOING OUT TO THESE NO TALENT LUNATICS> :D OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE NEXT GAME>>>>>GOOD ISH
 
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touney life

Anytime i look at an all in pre-flop and consider a call, I think "do I want to risk my tournament life with this hand." Not, "do I have the best hand." I don't like to call an all-in on coin flips, when I'm even or behind in chips. This is simply my opinion. My advice is break your game down into different levels of betting and calls and see how successful you are and modify your game to what you believe is solid play. Freerolls are a great way to utilize strategies because it does not cost you anything and can be more valuable than the cash prizes. I consider freerolls academic research into the thousands of players you will encounter.
 
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SchlomoSmack said:
THANKS fOR THE ADVICE>>>> I WILL APPLY THE WAIT THEORY FOR TEH FIRST FEW ROUNDS UNLESS I HAVE ONE OF THE TOP FIVE HANDS>> THAT WAY I'M SURRE TO AVOID FRUSTATIOn FROM GOING OUT TO THESE NO TALENT LUNATICS> :D OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE NEXT GAME>>>>>GOOD ISH
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Well, do so it'll help...
..and btw. your CAPSLOCK is on, lol.
 
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during a freeroll, i honestly try my luck vs 1 all in person with a jj qq kk aa. with 3 people all in, i fold stuff like aq and stuff just because it gets too crazy. sometimes you have to wait out til these players bust out or slow down. they will pay you off later because they dont know what to do with their huge chip stack.
 
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i think you gotta check raise or just check call. If you have a tight table image the crazy people will usually put you on a big hand when you call their bets. if you bet they may raise which doesnt help you anyway as they still could have anything.
 
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You have wait for the right moment. He will keep doing it until he gets caught. I have seen a player do this all the time in freerolls. I have seen them crack Aces and Kings to win hands with total junk. But if play properly and wait for the right hand you can take them down. Maybe not everytime. But for sure most of the time.
 
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wait for a premium hand and double up through them, and then play very tight until the first break of the tourney, even sit out so your not tempted. By then most of them are gone so you can loosen up
 
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edge1128 said:
fold more and be more paitent because they will donk their chips eventually
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Isn't this an argument to not fold? If you fold they'll donk of their chips to someone else. If you call with a marginal hand you have a shot to get your chips in a big favorite to build a stack yourself.
 
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i uauallsl wait for paint cards j,q,k, or ace or a pair myself and then take the chance thier usuaally bluffers anyway but i also play freerolls 2
 
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I know your frustration. The more I play the more I see them going all-in all the time. I just sit back and wait for them to do something wrong and someone else kicks them out. then I can play poker with poker players and not have to deal with the kids who think they know how to play with the all-in's.
 
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Im doing quite well in small SNG's with an 'all in stratagy' once im through the bubble.

People have tightened up for quite a while and the blinds are huge.

All in with pretty much any two cards in position.

3 things happen

1 you get HUGE fold equity
2 you steal the now LARGE blinds which mean every hand is worth about 10% of all money in play

3 you get lucky.. people call but seeing as you play monsters in the same way as everything else you can easily bust someone when they play a lesser hand than usual against you.

Over the last few weeks I have been placing in small SNG's by playing well before the bubble.. but at this level its grtting me a win around 1/3 of the time and second more than half of the time... third.. well I have that anyway!!!
 
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