how to adjust to different kinds of tables

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I play fixed limit holdem and am trying to figure out how to adjust -- more than I do -- to different kinds of tables that I tend to encounter way down at micro stakes. (By different "kinds" I mean the table averages for the overall tightness/passiveness of most of the players I'm facing at any given time at a table.)

I just ran a little report and found that over 20k hands, the tables I tend to lose the most at are the ones that are either loose preflop & then passive after, tight & passive, and finally loose & aggressive. My win rate is higher at tables that are more in the middle, & thus probably more predictable. I think this is mostly because I'm a newbie and tend to play somewhat mechanically, more by-the-book than I know I should. So here examples of the different overall playing styles at the kinds of tables I'm talking about. Chime in about how I should more or less be adjusting ... which is what I'm planning on doing from now on.

1) Loose/Passive tables: VP$P >= 30, PFR <= 5, AF <= 1.5 (the most common tables I come across, btw.)

2) Tight/Passive tables: VP$P >= 25, PFR <= 5, AF <= 1.5

3) Loose/Aggressive tables: VP$P >= 35, PFR >= 10, AF >= 3.0

These are just approximate, hypothetical stats -- just look for general strategies for how to adjust. Thanks!
 
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I also play Limit, playing .50/$1.

Basically, the simple answer is, you want to do the opposite of the other players at these stakes. At a loose/passive table you'll want to tighten up but be more aggressive postflop even if you miss everyonce in a while.

At a Tight/Passive table, Lossen up your opening range but don't call raises without a good hand.

At a Loose/Aggressive table, Tighten up your range and let them give their money to you when you have a hand.
 
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i never play fixed limit hold em, its hard to bluff people there since you can chase them away with a big bet when you know they are trying to fish for a few outs. in fixed limit they can see cards for cheap and then you get boned and wish you were in a NL game.
at least in pot limit you can increase the betting as you go along but fixed is just a nightmare for me. lol, sorry to be craping your style, i dont mean to put your game down its just never been my cup of tea:) .
if it works for you, keep at it, if it doesnt, come on over to the big boy games, where you can lose your shirt as well.:D
 
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i never play fixed limit hold em, its hard to bluff people there since you can chase them away with a big bet when you know they are trying to fish for a few outs. in fixed limit they can see cards for cheap and then you get boned and wish you were in a NL game.
at least in pot limit you can increase the betting as you go along but fixed is just a nightmare for me. lol, sorry to be craping your style, i dont mean to put your game down its just never been my cup of tea:) .
if it works for you, keep at it, if it doesnt, come on over to the big boy games, where you can lose your shirt as well.:D

Ya, I don't know what Doyle and Amarillo played for all those years when NL wasn't famous yet. Or what the Big games were in Bobby's room for so many years.
 
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In Negreanu parlance: getting value from when you bet your hands is dependent on effectively telling a story. In fixed limit games, it takes a long time to set-up a story, because for the most parts, players are priced in by the pot odds.

That said, the best way to play fixed limit is to play ABC poker. Bet your good draws hard and your made hands harder. I think that strategy pays off at the lower limit tables.
 
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