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How much should I be earning per hour online playing limit Texas holdem?

I hear figures of 1-3 x the BB

But does this stay true at micro stakes? 0.05/0.10
 
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Just in case you don't know, BB =big bet. So if you are playing .05/.1 blinds, the BB = 0.2.

Normally you multitable cash games. So the way ppl grind money in cash even if they are only making 3BB/100 is because they are probably playing 8 tables. Therefore, they are actaully making 24BB/100 and if you are playing say 0.5/1$ blinds, that works out to 48$/hr.

I really really really wouldn't worry about how much you make at micro stakes/hr. It isn't going to be much. Just work on learning how to play and building your BR.
 
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How much should I be earning per hour online playing limit Texas holdem?

I hear figures of 1-3 x the BB

But does this stay true at micro stakes? 0.05/0.10

The majority of players lose, and this is true at all stakes. So basically I'd say anything over 0 BB/100 hands or per hour is good. If it's micros you're probably not trying to make a living or anything, so just work on getting better. In terms of what's good? I know I beat it for ~11 BB/100 over like 20k hands and I've heard of people as high as 15 BB/100. As you go up the winrates drop though. At 50nl 5 BB/100 is considered godlike and 3 is very solid. These are also mostly multitablers (and my 11 was at only 4 tables, not sure if I could sustain that at 12 tables).

But if you're just beginning, shoot for something over 0. If you can have fun and profit, even just a bit, you're doing something right. Continue to get better, shooting for a certain BB/100 isn't going to get you there, just continue to work on your game and see what you can accomplish.
 
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I've read several places that professional live poker players plan on winning one big blind per hour. For the very high stakes games, they plan on winning even less.

I play fairly similar to what ChuckTs describes in his 10K postament and make a little more than 9BB/100.
 
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remember Stu is always talking about limit so bb/100 should be lower. NL microstakes bb/100 should be pretty high with deepest stacks and dumbest players.
 
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oh crap sorry I keep making this mistake. Didn't see the word limit. Ignore everything I said lol.
 
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(Disclaimer: speaking in general terms, not necessarily from experience)

First off, a pedantic note: because hands happen faster online, win rates tend to be expressed per hundred hands rather than per hour.

The one big bet an hour rate comes from live games where the players might only be seeing 20 or so hands an hour. So that works out to 4-5BB/100 hands and if you can sustain that online, you'll be doing very well.

If you're a very good player you might be able to take micro stakes for a bit more than that because they play will, in general, be of a worse standard, but I wouldn't expect it'd be a quantum leap bigger or anything.
 
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I'm not sure what a decent winrate is at your stakes, but limit holdem players generally speak of having a decent winrate if their between 1-2bb/100.
 
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i earnt $4.05/hour 24 tabling 1c/2c. Boring as hell but sustainable. If you want to earn decent money at micros you need to multitable. Also look at it as $/hour nt BB/hour that way its easier to compare to other jobs in life etc.
 
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i earnt $4.05/hour 24 tabling 1c/2c. Boring as hell but sustainable. If you want to earn decent money at micros you need to multitable. Also look at it as $/hour nt BB/hour that way its easier to compare to other jobs in life etc.

Munchers, how would you feel about some training for me on .01/.
02? I'm on the same limits and could really use some advice, if your making $4.05/hour would love some tips, any chance?
 
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Tip #1: Learn to 24 table?
 
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To 24 table on .01/.02 what kind of BR should be minimum, and what should you buyin for on each table, the min or the max?
 
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To 24 table on .01/.02 what kind of BR should be minimum, and what should you buyin for on each table, the min or the max?

PM me and we can work something out. $150 buy in for $5
 
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I made $2 yesterday sitting at a .1/.2 limit table yesterday on pokerstars. I played solid hands usually and if it was cheap enough I showed my worse hands for everyone to see. Soon everyone starts calling you with your premium hands. Then when you win a couple of big hands and your stack gets bigger people start respecting you and actually not calling you down until the river.

So basically mix up your play. Now this isn't normal for me though. I'm just in it to play 360 player sng's for 10 cents. I just try to make 20-30 cents and then I go play the micro tourney's. Hopefully I can move up soon to bigger limits.
 
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i have been running at about 8BB/100 over 4k but only 2 tables ,i feel that learning to play a winning style is more important than money cause if your in the micros unless you are 24 tabling you are probably not going to earn much, im just grinding up a BR and when i feel ready move up a limit! i have only had 2-3 losing sessions out of about 50 . but we shall see the true score after about another 50k hands .
 
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^^^^^

Sounds good mate.. keep at it!!
 
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I dont know how sustainable it is but I cashed out everything (over 200) over the summer and in February started playing freerolls again. Last week I cashed in play chips for $7 and started playing 0.01/0.02 on Full Tilt (as well as a few SnGs. Over 2093 hands I have averaged 47 big blinds / 100 hands (aka $0.94/100). I am currently limiting myself to 3 tabling with a full $2 buyin (in tilt max is $2 instead of 5 on PS).

I guess my question is whether that is sustainable or if im just hitting some good variance? My graph so far is attached:
 

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cheers stu im slightly improving ,nice to see you about again,

47BB/100 good rate ,cant see it being sustainable forever but ,its a nice win rate , good luck to you
 
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what software can i use to record how much i profit?
 
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what software can i use to record how much i profit?

There are more recent threads closer to this subject (try not to post in threads that say "more than month old"). Search holdem manager, poker tracker...the graph in this thread is from a mac only program, poker copilot.
 
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