Originally Posted by cracksniper
Hello all, sorry I have not posted for a while but as the title says this has happened twice recently and I wonder what you all think is the best strategy for this?
Playing in GUKPT main event blinds where 100-200, I had 5000 left and played my 66 from early position, limped in and got 3 two callers.
The flop came J6X all spades.
I raised to 1000
and then the last to act put me all in for the remaining of my stack around 4000,
I folded (but thinking he had made his flush but it could have been a squeeze play, it is the only time I have ever folded a set and maybe the occasion got to me as it was a big tourney.)
happened last night got 33, blinds were 50-100.
I min' raised to 200 UTG (I read an article by Negraneu who recommended doing this to try and halt people coming over the top) got around 5 callers .
The flop came XX3,all clubs but with my set making other 3,
I again raised to a 1000, --basically I think I don't want another club to come, making someones flush and I also want to bet out to see if I come up against opposition they all folded and I took down a nice pot.
I just wonder if I'm maximizing my pay off or would other cc regulars try and slow play this thanks for all the advice again I do appreciate it and I hope i'v explained it all well. I would hope poker orifice would respond as you give good advice cheers the sniper
FYP -Edited for readability, I had to.
The way I see this is about the same as when I have the big overpair and a flush flop comes. If I have one of the suit or none of the suit I will play them different. Add in position and how these hands get played varies greatly. In early position the problem is if you bet into the pot you may be running up against the made hand, versus if you don't seek to find out where you are, you'll be blind the rest of the way.
I find solace that other players fear the flush flop as much as I do (tho every once in a while I'm sure I run into color blind fools).
In your first example, I like the reasons you gave for folding. Tourney life is all you got, and u must make big laydowns to survive in tourneys.
It looks like you might have had a bigger starting stack in the second scenario, and you did fine. We all assume you were ready to muck if you met resistance.
Besides the made flush, in both cases there was still the remote possibility that your villains hit bigger sets.
If you are last to act post flop, flush flops are easier steals. Most of the people, most of the time will check a flush flop, if only to gain some info, and if that info is made by the last to act in the form of a good healthy preventative bet, then most of the people, most of the time will give the pot to you. Of course the big problem is the tricky bustard who slow plays his made nut flush just waiting for you to do this very thing......
But again, 7-10+ outs is not such a bad place to get stuck.....