hi peeps help please???

T

thesharkuk

Rising Star
Bronze Level
Joined
Jul 15, 2013
Total posts
11
Chips
0
hi people i have a huge problem when it comes to playing cash games and mtts online. I call even though i know im behind or reraise.. It's a big problem and i'll explain why.

So earlier i was in the big 4.40 and i was in the 3bb with aq an utg raiser and 5 limpers so i make the call obv with fantastic pot odds flop comes q93 all different suits rainbow utg raiser bets his original raise 3xbb and guy 4th to act just calls and i reraise, and i said to myself i have top pair its a pretty dry board i want to see if my queens any good here but with 3 limpers in one of them could of flopped a set so if i get reraised i can lay this hand down and not lose more on later street so i repop it to half pot every one folds except guy 4th to act who reraises twice my bet and i looked at the board and knew he had flopped a set of 3s, i even said in the chat box what you flopped a set of 3s or something this is so sick... but i dont know why i had a good read i let the timer go down to last 5 seconds and shoved all in for around 4k my tourney life and sure enough he had pocket 3s good read, dreadful call.

another example i raised utg with kk 2x from early with 2 limper calls from early and mid position and then guy in the cut off raised pot and i said to myself almost straight away this guy has aces he has seen i am playing really tight and he wants to isolate me in this pot cause i he knows i have a good hand he has aces i reraised the other to folded and he shoved but even though i reead him for aces i made the call and sure enough he had aces i thought about folding for so long in this hand too but i went back on my read and called. but i keep doing it why? can someone explain cause im pretty good hand reader but i go back on myself and just make the call anyway.

and a further example in thee big 4.40 before my dreadful call/ blow up i had ace king spades on the button mid postion raiser and caller i re pop it to pot they both call flop comes all low cards no spades but the orig raiser only bet 3xbb the other guy called and i insta mucked with two overs too board i said no draw no pair im folding even though there was 2k in the pot 240 to call and river comes king they both bet each other down to the river and show jj and 99 i would of won the hand but i folded to a min bet with two overs. i folded to fantastic pot odds with two overs on a really dry board, but i make all sorts of mistakes like how do i talk myself from making bad folds and bad calls cause they are making me tilt. how do i go with my read?

i build my bankroll to a few a few k tilt and lose it all because of these mistakes always. when you raise anf get reraised on a flop and all you have his top pair there is a very good cahnce that you are beat very rare does someone reraise you without atleast 2 pair unless they know a.think your weak or b. there super agro c. there bluffing d. there donks, iknow this but yey i make calls like this on a regular basis
 
Last edited by a moderator:
BluffMeAllIn

BluffMeAllIn

4evrInmyheart RIP xoxo :(
Silver Level
Joined
May 2, 2009
Total posts
11,324
Chips
0
Hey theshark,

Gotta say I hear you on this, probably a big part of my past problems playing poker were along the same lines. Had a tendency to talk myself into thinking they are trying to bluff at me, or pushing on a draw.

However as you indicated, if you had a number of players follow into the flop, you raise and get reraised I think its probably a good decision to fold knowing you are beat. Perhaps its the not wanting to get bluffed aspect, but in the situation gotta way sometimes the fact. OK, I might have gotton bluffed but I think I'm beat and I don't want to be put out of the game (unless of course, you have already committed yourself with your reraise perhaps).

Just my thoughts, as I mentioned have had such problems of my own in the past so I'm sure there would be a few other members who could provide some quality feedback.

Thanks,
Bluff
 
DaReKa

DaReKa

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Nov 1, 2012
Total posts
264
Chips
0
Not sure what advice you want. Stop making bad calls. Don't play emotionally. The KK vs. AA example is just a cooler; most of the time you'd be wrong to fold in that spot.

If you want to make less mistakes, practice staying focused on the game - think through every decision you make (especially post flop). If you start going on auto-pilot, you will come to sub-optimal decisions far more frequently.
 
steveiam

steveiam

CardsChat Elite
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 9, 2013
Total posts
3,625
Chips
0
Its all about making the right decisions its ok to lay down a big hand. You cant win every hand and most players don't bluff that often.
 
psychotie

psychotie

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Apr 18, 2009
Total posts
324
Chips
0
Read some poker books to get rid of ur leaks.
It helped me a lot to adjust my gameplay.
 
NvrBlufn

NvrBlufn

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 15, 2013
Total posts
158
Awards
1
US
Chips
0
I think you have to trust your gut in order to improve and get you further in the tourney or cash game.
You don't need to pay them off every time just to see if you were right. If you win in the long run you were right enough!

1) Determine your calling ranges before you play

2) When you have a solid plan (like your first example) Stick with it!
The plan was fold if I am re-raised because I know I am beaten. So fold.

To shove in that spot, especially after the chat box comment was emotionally aggressive and that means you will be easy money target to the rest of us.
The fold would have earned you more props at the table, he may have even showed his hand!

Don't be someones dream come true, instead find those players and exploit them when YOU flopped a set.

GG, Good flops and GL
 
Propane Goat

Propane Goat

Grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't
Moderator
Joined
Apr 26, 2013
Total posts
7,509
Awards
4
US
Chips
547
I'm having this same issue as a beginning player when I know exactly what the villain has post-flop, I know I'm beat, yet I can't throw the hand away like I should. For me I think the issue isn't just poker, it goes more into human psychology, especially for men. When somebody is aggressive toward us, our instinct is to be just as aggressive or more in return, not only to protect ourselves, but to show the other person that we aren't weak and can't be intimidated.

This might be all fine and dandy on the football field or the wrestling mat, the problem is that in poker either we have the winning hand or we don't, and our egos get in the way of being able to back down and survive to fight another round, because we don't want to admit that we've lost this one, especially with the whole table watching. It makes you look worse though, when you shove your whole stack at somebody who has shown strength throughout the hand, you know he's not bluffing, and all you have is a pair of deuces to back it up.
 
AugustWest

AugustWest

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Oct 10, 2011
Total posts
608
Awards
1
Chips
1
Gotta try to remember poker isn't about ego. It's about making good
decisions. I have the problem as you, gotta find the fold button more often!!
 
Top