Hi i have played poker for 1 year

Hi im glad to find this poker forum.

i have played poker for 1 years and i am still losing player.

i have read several books such as super system or other books for poker.

it says how to find tight players, passive players etc.

i am still trying to recognize peoples playing style.

but it is hard for me because even when people play, i dont know their hand

sometimes, and i still cant find..

is there something i must memorise while playing? or something your own

ways to recognize peoples playing style?

is there any things i should keep waching and memorise there specific

information?

I use an HUD and players stats often give good indication to whether they are good or not, what their possible ranges might be in certain situations and whether there are any aspects of their play that you can exploit.

Other than that bad players can normally be identified by certain aspects of their play such as preflop limping, min-betting/min-3betting, making weird sized bets and having weak hands at showdown

What stakes do you play normally? Do you use an HUD?

Thanks for reply.

i apriciate your reply.

i play 0.2,0,5 cents also i play 1,2 no limit at the casino.

i usualy win in 0.2,0.5 but i found poker from casino and online poker has

littlebit different pattern.

i heard about HUD But i would like to learn what i should consider when i

reconize player..

i really like that you said certain aspects of their play such as preflop
limping, min-betting/min-3betting, making weird sized bets.

could you explan littlebit more about these?

also is there other simple things i sould memorise the data from thier playing
while im playing?

yeah You must memorize the term, "PATIENCE". So often we get sucked out on or make one bad move and it leaves us with less than a 1/4 of our chip stack. well take this moment as an excuse to play only the most premuim top notch hands at the most premuim positions. So often have i gotten down to like 120 chips starting at 2,000 and brought it all the way back up and made it into placing. this term is called saving the nub, instead of going on tilt and throwing in your remainder if you save the nub or whats left and iether leave a cash game with it, or be patient ina tournment you'll find that over time you save so so so much more Money!

FeltLikeIt said:

yeah You must memorize the term, "PATIENCE". So often we get sucked out on or make one bad move and it leaves us with less than a 1/4 of our chip stack. well take this moment as an excuse to play only the most premuim top notch hands at the most premuim positions. So often have i gotten down to like 120 chips starting at 2,000 and brought it all the way back up and made it into placing. this term is called saving the nub, instead of going on tilt and throwing in your remainder if you save the nub or whats left and iether leave a cash game with it, or be patient ina tournment you'll find that over time you save so so so much more Money!

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This is a very long winded way of saying be patient and don't tilt!

ktwestsun said:

i heard about HUD But i would like to learn what i should consider when i

reconize player..

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An HUD is an excellent tool and in some ways you are putting yourself at a disadvantage by not using one because so many other people do. You can get free trials for Pokertracker 3 or Holdem manager 2....so might be worth considering giving it a go.

ktwestsun said:

i really like that you said certain aspects of their play such as preflop
limping, min-betting/min-3betting, making weird sized bets.

could you explan littlebit more about these?

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limping -- Limping preflop is bad and bad players normally limp. Play tight starting hands and raise them preflop. If, for example, the blinds and limper fold you just made an extra BB. If blinds fold and limper calls they will often make a worse hand than you (worse kicker for example) and you can value bet them over 3 streets. Because limpers are (normally) bad players they often overvalue hands like one pair with poor kicker.

min betting/min 3-betting -- again indicates a bad player. I see min-betting quite a lot at 2NL and I swear they are just betting because they don't know what else to do half the time! Or sometimes it means they have a weak made hand. In both of these situations it is quite easy to make them fold by making a decent raise whether you have something or not. Basically if you are going to bet you should bet properly, in general at least half the pot. Players who don't do this are usually weak.

making weird sized bets -- sometimes their bet size doesn't really make sense with what has happened previously in the hand. There are different types of weird bet....
Betting too small: if they put in a decent sized flop bet and you called with a draw for example, and then their bets start getting smaller on the turn and river it often means they don't have much and are scared of putting more money in, so you can raise it up and see what happens.
Betting too big: if they haven't shown much aggression in the hand and then they suddenly bet big it can be a sign they are bluffing you. I have caught people bluffing before because their bet size was unusually large. At the same time you need to be careful with this one and it is dangerous to assume villain is bluffing.

There are loads of other things you can look out for like 3betting too much, c-betting too much, being too passive etc. You can keep some track of this stuff without but having an HUD makes it soooooo much easier!

Well this is pretty much the core of poker and since there are a thousand books on the topic I'm going to do my best to avoid writing one right now, but -
HUD = Heads Up Display - generic term.
Specific HUD programs include:
Poker Tracker (aka PT3)
Hold 'Em Manager (aka HEM)
There is a bunch on how these work out there. Go to You Tube and search "PT3 Tutorial" or "HEM Tutorial" and you should get a good overview.
As far as reading players - it is pretty much everything and takes literally years to really get a hold of (past basic concepts). It is a practiced skill.
What hands do they play?
Clues include:
How often they are in a pot (known on a HUD as VPIP, or Voluntarily Put in Pot). If they are only play 1 out of 10 hands (10%) then you have a pretty tight player who is probably only playing premium hands. If he is playing 3 or more out of 10 then he is probably loose. Without a good sample size it would be dangerous to draw any concrete conclusions on them though.
Okay, sorry - I am notorious for staying away from long posts - I will let somebody else pick it up from here
In nutshell you have to pay attention to everything they do, how they do it, when they do it, the circumstances they did it in. Pay close attention to any hand that goes to show down and immediately replay the action in your head. At first it is impossible to do that on a full table live, so you focus on the guys most likely to effect you - the guy on your right and the two guys to your left (the blinds when you are the button). Even doing 3 guys at once is at forst overwhelming but like I said, it requires practice and it gets easier and you get better.

ktwestsun said:

i apriciate your reply.

i play 0.2,0,5 cents also i play 1,2 no limit at the casino.

i usualy win in 0.2,0.5 but i found poker from casino and online poker has

littlebit different pattern.

i heard about HUD But i would like to learn what i should consider when i

reconize player..

i really like that you said certain aspects of their play such as preflop
limping, min-betting/min-3betting, making weird sized bets.

could you explan littlebit more about these?

also is there other simple things i sould memorise the data from thier playing
while im playing?

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You mean Open Limping, right. You will see good players cal a limp in position because they have the skill to get away from mediocre hands after the flop. Hands the bad player will not get away from. Which is one key reason you do not want to open limp - better players are allowed in the hand with crap hamds and they can and will out play you on the flop, turn, river.

micromachine said:

limping -- Limping preflop is bad and bad players normally limp. Play tight starting hands and raise them preflop. If, for example, the blinds and limper fold you just made an extra BB. If blinds fold and limper calls they will often make a worse hand than you (worse kicker for example) and you can value bet them over 3 streets. Because limpers are (normally) bad players they often overvalue hands like one pair with poor kicker.

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MediaBLITZ said:

You mean Open Limping, right. You will see good players cal a limp in position because they have the skill to get away from mediocre hands after the flop. Hands the bad player will not get away from. Which is one key reason you do not want to open limp - better players are allowed in the hand with crap hamds and they can and will out play you on the flop, turn, river.

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yep meant open limping

MediaBLITZ said:

You mean Open Limping, right. You will see good players cal a limp in position because they have the skill to get away from mediocre hands after the flop. Hands the bad player will not get away from. Which is one key reason you do not want to open limp - better players are allowed in the hand with crap hamds and they can and will out play you on the flop, turn, river.

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I think better players would lean more toward raising the limper in position.

Arjonius said:

I think better players would lean more toward raising the limper in position.

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Oh absolutley they will do that - too.

I don't know what books you read but if you play like Doyle says in the Hold'em section you will get crushed. Try Phil Gordons: Little Green Book. Also read the https://www.cardschat.com/f49/. search through the articles theres a lot of good information there.

ktwestsun said:

i apriciate your reply.

i play 0.2,0,5 cents also i play 1,2 no limit at the casino.

i usualy win in 0.2,0.5 but i found poker from casino and online poker has

littlebit different pattern.

i heard about HUD But i would like to learn what i should consider when i

reconize player..

i really like that you said certain aspects of their play such as preflop
limping, min-betting/min-3betting, making weird sized bets.

could you explan littlebit more about these?

also is there other simple things i sould memorise the data from thier playing
while im playing?

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Playing the live cash games is very different from online cash games.
Micros advice is good for the tight online multitabler as most players VPIP are much lower than live players who are stuck single tabling and looking for action.
In the live play it very easy to see the >4 to the flop even with a PFR as I would say most average players are loose compared to the online game which usually just 2 to the flop....stragety would be differrent preflop in the live game.
I would say open limping would work in a loose live game. But in a tighter online game raising preflop and 3betting would work better.

hi everyone, its incredible u have played poker one year,bt i am new and trying to learn the game please teach me about the rules of game and how to play