Help with BRM

I'm not sure if I learned it. I never made a deposit and made a 300$ bank twice and lost them both the following way: I played inside my limits but when I had lots of badbeats I played hypers heads up stngos, and if I lost I played another with a higher buy-in, thinking that I had so many badbeats that I needed to be lucky in the next game. Unfortunately that didn't happen.
Now I have a 200$ bank, and just today I did the same thing, but it didn't go wrong hopefully. I need to stop doing this, can anyone give me some advice please?
And another thing I notice is that it seems that I can not accept to have a negative C net in any session, like I can not admit downswings. Any help?
I need to change this attitude quickly

It looks like you just need to stop after losing a certain amount of buy-ins. Set this amount for yourself and if you lose them just press quit button without thinking that if you play longer or with higher buy-ins you'll get you money back.
I also think that it's important to stick with your initial plan. When you start losing money don't switch to another game.

For hypers you need very big bankroll, around 500 bi, because it's working moment to lose 100-150bi...

From my experience, to feel comfortable and not be in tilt, need around 150bi and 400-500bi for MTT....

matiusaa said:

I'm not sure if I learned it. I never made a deposit and made a 300$ bank twice and lost them both the following way: I played inside my limits but when I had lots of badbeats I played hypers heads up stngos, and if I lost I played another with a higher buy-in, thinking that I had so many badbeats that I needed to be lucky in the next game. Unfortunately that didn't happen.
Now I have a 200$ bank, and just today I did the same thing, but it didn't go wrong hopefully. I need to stop doing this, can anyone give me some advice please?
And another thing I notice is that it seems that I can not accept to have a negative C net in any session, like I can not admit downswings. Any help?
I need to change this attitude quickly

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not enough information. Not sure what buy ins your doing.

or the fields of players etc.. All things matter in bankroll management so need more hard facts

also I would quit the heads up thing entirely

just me but that is russian roulette to me lol and makes you more succeptible to swings know misspelled lol. Not sure how to do that word.

I only play mtts for which I have more than 100 buy ins, I play 1.35 mtts 1.10, 0,82 0,56 and sometimes 0,27. Fields are at least 2k. My problem is that if I play 10 tournaments for example it is very difficult not to loose money because its tough to get to the top places in one of those 10 tournaments because the field is so big.
In cash games, I feel comfortable sitting with 40 bb which is the minimum. I only play with 0,80$ in 6 tables at the same time and usually win $$. But If I happen not to win on tournaments or cash I start feeling desperate

First the fields are too large assume your at tilt or stars? overseas player?


I mean I am exceptional player imho and those fields 2000? Would hope for two moneys a day maybe a final table every few days 2000 is like a freeroll ROUGH

I target fields on carbon betonline full flush etc.. based on how many people what is the over cash amount etc. also not big on rebuy events myself that can be costly with my limited starting roll etc..

I think you would do better to play at a different time and also maybe pay more money 5.00 to get into smaller fields

All of that is choosing wisely. When I played stars and tilt sure I played 1-2-3 dollar events but was smaller fields late at night or something and was guarantees made it worth while to take a shot.

Back in day when was 50 rooms I played about 25 events tourneys a day at the high point.

I also would cut down to four rooms at a time if playing strictly cash events

I really think your problem is variance and the large field choose more wisely. Make a plan find what tourneys you do well at lol

Is tiger woods thing certain tournaments meet match his eye is same personally for me in my honest belief lol for certain daily and weekly events I just do well in them time and again so stick to those drop the ones that do not work etc...

Yet I try to keep fields for low buy ins in 500 lol so 2000 is rough to me

also separated this on PURPOSE GET POSTS HERE ENTER THE freerolls
GET ACCOUNTS IN THE STATES

is a hell of a lot easier my friend join the leagues here you will honestly improve your game playing in states for a bit getting off tilt and stars for some time or events and than going back to those it will become easier

I have faith in that honestly so join the other rooms post get your posts here join the freeroll leagues expand and prosper

I'd suggest that you send an email off to support to ask them to put in place a temporary ban on those hyper games so that you have time to increase your balance and slowly come to terms with some losing days which will happen but that's poker.

Can I do it myself or do I have to contact support?

Wow there's an option called responable game (I think this will be the traduction from spanish to english) where you can set the maximun entry of tournaments, stngos and cash tables you want to play. This is awesome, I wish I had known this in the past

Stick to solid brm no matter what you lose.

Don't chase your losses, it only turns out badly.

You can set up stop loss limit - when you lose X buyins, you should stop playing no matter what.

BRM doesn't guarantee you won't lose your entire BR. It guards against doing so rashly. If you play at a level where your ability is insufficient relative to your opponents, you'll eventually end up broke. Exercising BRM will only mean it takes a while.

There's actually more to BRM than counting how many buyins you have. Choosing your opponents so you're not over-matched is vital as well.

Allowing your bank roll to build up naturally helps to keep you at the right level. If the OP managed to get up to 300 without depositing does that mean they're not withdrawing either? Making some small withdrawals when you're doing well will help to make the loses less crushing and maybe slow down the urge to chase them.

cogath said:

Allowing your bank roll to build up naturally helps to keep you at the right level. If the OP managed to get up to 300 without depositing does that mean they're not withdrawing either? Making some small withdrawals when you're doing well will help to make the loses less crushing and maybe slow down the urge to chase them.

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I truly WISH WE HAD A NOMINATE POSTS BUTTON awards etc..

great advice will say i always run into dead cards though after I do the withdraws lol

matiusaa said:

I'm not sure if I learned it. I never made a deposit and made a 300$ bank twice and lost them both the following way: I played inside my limits but when I had lots of badbeats I played hypers heads up stngos,
Don't do this
and if I lost I played another with a higher buy-in,
Don't do this
thinking that I had so many badbeats that I needed to be lucky in the next game.
That is called the gamblers fallacy - your chances of good or bad luck are exactly the same as at any other time
Unfortunately that didn't happen.
Now I have a 200$ bank, and just today I did the same thing, but it didn't go wrong hopefully. I need to stop doing this, can anyone give me some advice please?
Stop doing it, just remember that preserving your bankroll is more important to you
And another thing I notice is that it seems that I can not accept to have a negative C net in any session, like I can not admit downswings. Any help?
I need to change this attitude quickly.
It's good to be driven to win, but you can't win every time — accept it

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matiusaa said:

I only play mtts
(except when you go crazy on hyper sng's)
for which I have more than 100 buy ins, I play 1.35 mtts 1.10, 0,82 0,56 and sometimes 0,27. Fields are at least 2k. My problem is that if I play 10 tournaments for example it is very difficult not to loose money because its tough to get to the top places in one of those 10 tournaments because the field is so big.
This is just the way it is with MTT's, but if they have very large fields then you will have a nice payday when you win — accept that this is the way it is
In cash games, I feel comfortable sitting with 40 bb which is the minimum. I only play with 0,80$ in 6 tables at the same time and usually win $$. But If I happen not to win on tournaments or cash I start feeling desperate
I (and many others here) would always advise sitting with at least 100BB. If you are playing 40BB then you should be playing a shortstack strategy which is very different

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A lot of your problems seem to lie with understanding and accepting that poker is not a game that you can win every time. Once you learn this and look at the long term results you will enjoy the game more and be more successful (by not being reckless with your BR)
Good Luck

Play one game n try to beat it .. i mean if u Play mtts, then Keep the fields of any mtts u choose under 1k n try to get cpls of gd wins únder ur belt before moving to 2k fields.. in this way u r keeping the varience under control n try to gain confidence by making even ft n then try to win it down. sngs are the best way to control big varience.. cash games with short stack is not gd stratergy unless as samango says u use the short stack stratergy which is complete different ball game from deepstack stratergy..

gl at the tables

Chasing losses by playing those fast games or going high on stake after experiencing badbeats/suckouts is a mortal sin at online poker.

But you can be protected by maybe thinking this list often:

1. Your BR was hit hard before so I have to follow a strict BRM.

2. Just like in casino, deposit less to lose less.

3. If you feel cards are against you, run.

You can always read this for BRM advice.

If you play on pokerstars in the settings you can put limits on limits on cash, MTT and Set&Go, can not deny, also you can decide to make a Deposit. Significantly reduced the flow of funds during the tilt.

BRM is my killer if I win a tourney in low stakes I always think I can do the same a level or 2 up but it never works that way maybe I can stay low stakes until my game improves but the allure is so tempting