Help with AQ and KJ in diff possitions

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I typically raise aq to three or four times the big bling in any position. now if this is rereaised to lets say 3 times my bet this is an auto fold in most situations right?now what if the raise is 2 times my bet or less?call or fold?
my first question on kj is have I been playing it right by raising to 3 times big blind in any position if no action before me? or in early to mid position only limp if many limpers ahead of me and only if suited? (if I did end up 3 times big bling betting this and I get raised I know that's an auto fold lol...why im starting to think maybe its no better then j9), oh and should I be playing kq however you explain kj to me?or kq is closer to the top?

sorry if this is too much of a rant and doesn't make sense
 
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AQ is overplayed by casual players probably more so than AK, because people tend to treat them as similar in strength, when they're not. In most situations you don't want to be getting a ton of chips in the pot early with AQ. If I'm 3bet then I take villain's tendencies into account, like their 3bet% -- this is where a tracker/HUD are highly useful (assuming enough hands). Unless we're really deep, in position, and villain is a real LAG, I'm folding to most 3bets.

KJ is a dangerous hand in early-mid position; unless the game is short-stacked or very short-handed then I'm usually folding. Suited cards only give you about 2-3% more equity so don't go thinking it's a lot better suited. When you're called it's very often dominated or an underdog to Ax. If you pair on the flop it's really hard to know if you're best or not but really easy to get way too many chips in the pot before you realize you're beat.

Bet sizing is a separate issue, and generally speaking your bet sizing should not vary based on your hand strength -- this is highly exploitable by good players. I routinely vary my bet sizing based on blind levels and stack sizes, sometimes position (with EP raising a bit more, especially in cash games), but not hand strength -- in most cases I open AA the same way I open 98s. I only switch up based on hand strength when it's an intentional ploy to induce or take advantage of certain players based on my reads of them.
 
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In cash games, the two hands will generally win small pots and end up losing big pots. If you have a tight player giving you indications that he will be shoving, it would be wise to let them go if you have HPHK.
 
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i always forbet wit AQ if i get reraise i fold

If you're 250bb+ deep, that might be a reasonable play. Wouldn't recommend it at more typical stack sizes, especially in online MTTs. With 4betting you're looking at putting in 20-25bb+ which usually commits your whole stack. If you're going to 4bet, may as well just shove for the extra fold equity, because you're often going to need it with AQ.
 
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I think that, with that kind of hand, you spent too many chips with a hand that can give you a lot of problems, specially if you play it out of position. Believe me, it will cost you lots of money playing that way. Play it with more caution, it will save you tons of chips.
 
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AQ is really overplayed, especially when you have bss. It is a good hand to shove all in if you are shortstack. When you have mss, it is really difficult to play this hand, because it is very easy to commit yourself with the pot (you are commited when you have put 1/3 or more of your chips in the pot. So ask yourself this questions: Will I commit myself by 4betting? Do I want to commit my hand holding AQ? Could the villian that is reraising have a better hand than mine? It depends on who you are playing against, but the answer will be usually: yes.
 
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Everything is to situational to tell you for sure, aq is a lot better cold calling hand then kj. They are both good coming in for raises, kj if your new may want to fold from early position, I'm talking 6 max. 9 max kj is a instant fold from like the first 3 positions, some people will still open this hand if it is suited. Kj is easily to dominated and thats why it makes it a bad cold calling hand. Where as aq can be dominated, but it just much more unlikely.
 
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AQo is really one of those hands you can adjust based on your table,

it's ok to freebet light or big depending on the player. with AQ at low buy in level because you know any that re-shoves is holding most likely 10-10 + or a big ace,
if they flat call unless they are an experienced grinder you can expect them to hold a speculative hand, smaller ace possible a medium pocket pair,

the C-bet is usually succussful once they have checked in this situation,
if its not you'l need to evaluate the board texture and decide whether he is drawing or has you beat by the turn.

as for KJ in a full ring game its rarely a good idea to call a raise out of position, or playing it from early position in late play tournaments,

this again is dependant on how you view your table and their styles.
but obviously you will need to be alot more cautious with KJ - If im going to play this hand I prefer a 3-bet or a call in position to a standard raise
 
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