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i m usually aggressive player and mostly play at home games but recently started playing online. Have lost quite a lot . My session is usually like i start with min. buy in since i m ultra aggressive in medium stakes i usually up like 50BB and than by the end of session i end up broke.( been happened the same thing for past 10-15 sessions)
tried playing micro stakes cant play since players there are too tight.
(i play on indian poker site)
been studying all odds and math stuff and usually try n take decisions on those basis.
any advice what i m fundamentally doing wrong before i go broke.

appreciate it.
 
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I don't find players at the micros tight at all. In fact ,to me , they are loose and fishy. Calling out of position and not wanting to fold if they hit any part of the flop. Calling far too often with weak pocket pairs but the problem is when they hit and suck out. So the plan is to play tight and play premium hands. Reduce your range and play your strong hands aggressive. It's ok to fold your blinds and not defend them. You may be leaking chips by calling too much.Just rembember when you hit a set, they hit the st8. You have aces, they have queens and will river the queen. It is going to happen. If you can reduce your losses with those hands and be profitable on the hands you hit pay dirt you got something. They call it variance , that's the word for "acceptance to losing". The other part of your game is bankroll management. Playing a % of your bankroll at the table. Unfortunately if your bankroll is a few $ you are obviously playing with your bankroll and one bad hand your done. As for many it does come to that at some point. While your playing , if you build up a little stack, loosen up and expand your range. It's suppose to be fun remember. Good luck.
 
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You are doing now what you should do often, ask a lot of questions. I did and believe me, it has helped. But you have to take and use this good advice and use it. That is your chose.
 
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Why can't you try playing a little tighter ?,there isn't just one aspect to this game, poker to me just seems like once you realize and you learn one aspect of the game, it kind of opens up a whole other side,like a domino effect,you just keep learning about it, so keep reading up on poker, that's a great start!!!
 
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i m usually aggressive player and mostly play at home games but recently started playing online. Have lost quite a lot . My session is usually like i start with min. buy in since i m ultra aggressive in medium stakes i usually up like 50BB and than by the end of session i end up broke.( been happened the same thing for past 10-15 sessions)
tried playing micro stakes cant play since players there are too tight.
(i play on indian poker site)
been studying all odds and math stuff and usually try n take decisions on those basis.
any advice what i m fundamentally doing wrong before i go broke.

appreciate it.

Just relax try play slow and than check results, maybe you will like it and try play in different styles you will see which is the best for you :)
 
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There is a big difference in the home game, and the game online. Try to be less aggressive. Change tactics.
 
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You may not studied long enough to start making profit, my opinion is supposed to learn as online poker bears no resemblance to the live
 
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- Maybe you are too aggressive.

- What I know, microstake = loose and highstake = tight.

- Odds and math are not only the bases for decisions. Many factors to consider actually.
 
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try to complete promotions on the most known sites..........like freerolls right now on 888 of the gift shower.......5k freeroll everyday......
 
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From what I've seen of micro stakes games in the past (just now getting back into the game), you can tighten your game way up to just your top few hands. There will be half the table calling every raise no matter what cards they have, and even if they haven't hit the flop, they still want to see that river card. The few times you are dealt a good hand will make a good enough profit to allow many BB's to pass you by.

Main piece of advice: Practice folding, it's your most profitable move.
 
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thanks for advice guys appreciate it. any books for beginners ?
also any specific strategy for improving online play
and one last ques. is calculating the winning % in specific hands imp as the online game has a timer and u have to be super fast calculating odds.
 
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Super aggressive works for some people, but you have to know that you are going to have wild swings of your table stakes and bankroll. One suggestion you could try is to start with your min buy in, but then leave the table when you make it to 3 times your buy in. i.e. DON't Stay in until you loose all your money.

Alternatively, if it is possible for you to change gears (i.e. start playing much tighter), then stay in after reaching 3 times, but playing tight will catch lots of players who are expecting you to be playing with just about any two cards.
 
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thanks for advice guys appreciate it. any books for beginners ?
also any specific strategy for improving online play
and one last ques. is calculating the winning % in specific hands imp as the online game has a timer and u have to be super fast calculating odds.

E-book "Crush the micros" Author: BlackRain79
 
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Hi Samar100,

I think the best thing that can happen to you is when ALL players are just plain playing a tight game!
This gives you the opportunity too almost know exactly what cards people are playing. If you play aggressive against those players, you´re stealing blinds easily, and if someone calls or raises you, you know he has "something big"!

I´m really at the beginning trying to become a good player, but one thing that really helped me, was to understand that most of the time, not all players are tight or loose. You maybe have to watch the table first for a few hands and only play premium hands, and then after a few dozen hands, you can spot the differences in the player´s ranges and playing style.
First I thought I couldn´t do it, but you can really pick out those players who are more of a calling station, or more of a tight player and so on...but it needs patience and practice!!

Don´t just play "your game", but try to adapt you game to the table and the game of the other players at the table.
Be patient and watch and learn! :)
 
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that makes sense i guess i build a decent bankroll but i tend to go all-in too often there is where i lack patience. at times with an Ace pair i ll call all-in and i usually get caught on river by some sucker.
But is calling all-in when u have best hand post flop waiting for turn or river and the pot odds in ur favor a good play ?
 
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You need patience to be good at poker. Some serious real advice: You'll have to work seriously on this part of your psychology. It's not just in poker, but in life in general. And if you can't then poker may not be the game for you. It's not for everyone.
 
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All-In or not?

that makes sense i guess i build a decent bankroll but i tend to go all-in too often there is where i lack patience. at times with an Ace pair i ll call all-in and i usually get caught on river by some sucker.
But is calling all-in when u have best hand post flop waiting for turn or river and the pot odds in ur favor a good play ?

Ok, I´m really a beginner myself, but I´d say this:

It depends on the size of your stack: If your Stack is very small, and you´re about to get "eaten up" by the blinds, then this is your chance to gain some chips.

Also the overall situation of the Tournament is important: If you have a decent stack, and your only a few players away from the bubble, then maybe you just want to play it safe to make it to the bubble and get paid.

The player who is shoving all-in also is to be considered: Is he playing loose and has a big stack, maybe he is just trying to steal the pot.

In general is it of course an option to call with AA, because many player will go all-in with a pocket pair like 10-10 or JJ. I think it depends on your stack and the position in relation to the bubble!
 
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I think the problem is that since you're ultra aggresive and play with only 50bb you rely mainly on pushing all-in and that's the problem. It's like you don't really know what to do in this and that situation. Like going all-in is the only option. I think you need to choose wisely you starting hands and learn how to play them
 
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If you are an ultra loose ultra aggressive player then you would have to play at higher statckes to make a profit, because its so cheap to call on low and micro statckes good tags will take you down.. I suggest you tighten up your play because you sound like you are just starting out and going into high stakes because its the only place a super Lag can win would be a horrible idea because the players are probably much more advancend then you.
 
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I love to play online, I think you play aggressively that can be the reason behind loosing that much money online. Keep your mind in control and play with proper strategies.
 
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You are probably too aggressive, which works well until players have enough information on you to figure your ranges and the likelyhood of you having them beat. Once the table figures what you are doing (especially if one of your bluffs reaches showdown) tighten up a bit, play more from position, and when you feel they catch up again loosen up more. Try to feel the rythm of the table.

Keep in mind most regulars on med+ have tracker software and they will already know your style when you sit down at a table, if you played with them before.

If you did your research on online math like vpip and such, try to tone your pfr and vpip down a bit, if you feel like you cant handle the urge to play more hands, start to multitable, more tables more action. But careful while you accomodate to follow the action on more tables.


I hope this helps a bit, i am not an expert not even a good player :)
 
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that helps ppl thanks for ur advice i guess i m learning to be more patient also since online play has a time pressure i tend to make mistakes but at table i m not that loose since i can figure out odds and stuff
also do you think oddschart really helps.??
 
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Tight is right is still the best approach in micros.
(exeception nowadays: the tight pokerstars micro cash games :D, hate these LOL, tourneys and sngs are better)
And maybe you are a little impatient, but improving should always be possible! Make notes on your opponents and change tables, if the game is bad.
 
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Ok, I´m really a beginner myself, but I´d say this:

It depends on the size of your stack: If your Stack is very small, and you´re about to get "eaten up" by the blinds, then this is your chance to gain some chips.

Also the overall situation of the Tournament is important: If you have a decent stack, and your only a few players away from the bubble, then maybe you just want to play it safe to make it to the bubble and get paid.

The player who is shoving all-in also is to be considered: Is he playing loose and has a big stack, maybe he is just trying to steal the pot.

In general is it of course an option to call with AA, because many player will go all-in with a pocket pair like 10-10 or JJ. I think it depends on your stack and the position in relation to the bubble!

why give a tournament reply to a question that is cash game based.?
 
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