Originally Posted by imwatcher
3.44- 3b bigger with Qs, to 40c+
4.33- dont limp otb with 97, cant see guys stats in bb but if he is a calling station probably just fold, or if youre convinced you will outplay him enough post flop raise pre
cant see what happened in this 97 hands, pretty sure you should just fold to his donkbet though which is seemed like you didnt
6.01 idk what this guys stats are but im guessing i would prefer to 3b J9s rather than flatting, playing oop is going to suck and you will be dominated alot vs like KJ AJ, J10 kinda hands
wait wtf i just noticed youre playing short stacked i dont know what the **** my comments are going to do then
with the J9 hand c/r the flop calling is terrible and just shove river...
im not gonna bother watching the rest, post a full stack vid
Originally Posted by JOEBOB69
On DJ's Vid
First and foremost buy in full,and set your auto top off to 100bb!!!!
You keep saying things like this villain as a high vp$ip etc. Where is the HUD?We that are vewing the vid need to see villains stats as well.
Click auto muck why is this not clicked?Stop open raising to 2.5x at least make it 3x.
1) 3:44 Q's on the button,3bet here at least .36 cents plus
2) 4:36 limp on the button is terri bad.I raise there ,but you say he is a station i don't know with out stats if so fold 97o pre flop.
3)5:00 you limp UTG with J9s, thats a fold pre flop.
4)5:18 you limp in the CO with J8 off you still say SB is a station fold pre flop
5)6:00 you call a SB raise with J9s clearly a fold there.You hit a miracle flop raise to about ~.70-.76 cents.shove river as you played till that point (btw this guys range is AQo+,88+ preflop i know him well)
6)6:55 you called a 3x raise from the SB with 810s, just fold here.Then you flop a OESD and want call a less than pot flop bet???? You at least call, i raise IP to .50
7)8:20 you complete the blind with 57s,,steal the blind and move on to the next hand.BB 4x your limp and called "fold here"OOP.
8)9:28 you limp A7s UTG+1,raise 3x
9)~9:28 you limp on the BTN with K9o,raise 3x
10)11:55 you called with JQs in the bb to a cut off steal which i like,but then you donk bet the flop with mid pair for more than 1\2 pot.You just let him fold out all is air,with out giving him a chance to cbet,c\c imo.
11)12:02 you complete the blind with 910o,3x and move on to the next hand.
12)12:50 wtf are you talking about please explain"I'm not set for a rebuy when i bust out i'm done with that table"SET auto top off to 100bb.
13)15:00 after you said yourself this guy is playing tight as hell,you compete the SB once again with 102s,raise preflop 3x and move on to the next hand.
14)16:20 flop comes k78,cbet AQ to ~.12cents.
15)17:00 you make a note on a player that says calling station.Don't waste your time makeing notes that you can the same information using your HUD.That is a waste of time,space for real notes ,and effort.
16)17:30 you make a note on a player that says "rampager????",wtf does that mean?
17)End of vid you leave the table1 right after you post the small blind and leave on your button,why?You leave table2 right after you post the bb,why?
Originally Posted by Marginal
1 second into the video - I do not know why we are not sitting with 100bb. Our stack size is neither short nor deep which means we obviously have no idea what we are going for on the tables. We are putting ourselves into shitty spots with these awkward stack sizes.
Side note, your HUD is not showing so I am treating all villains as unknowns since I can’t see numbers and when making the video, it would be better to see both tables at the same time so I can assess the other players as well as see the action going on. Some hands get a little cut off by the style of recording.
55 seconds in to video – We raise pre from the small blind with Q3s. I am fine with the raise but we need to put the c bet in on the T56ss flop. We cannot just be stealing and giving up.
2 minutes 32 seconds – We make our preflop raise to 10c. Now while I do not necessarily have a problem with the raise size, if we raise to 2.5bb w/e. But why are we raising 10c from the cut off and 12c from small blind in a BvB situation? I think we definitely need to keep our raise size consistent and if anything the raise amount from the SB should be smaller than the CO.
3 minutes 32 seconds – Our 3 bet sizing is so small. We need to be putting in a lot more here. Minimum 40c. You want to make your bet here pretty close to pot if not a pot sized raise. 30c is just too small.
4 minutes 31 seconds – We label this guy a calling station right? So what do we do on his BB and our button? We limp 97o to see what he does? I am not sure what we are looking to do here. If anything, seeing as he is a station preflop, he is going to fold a lot of flops so we should be raising preflop and then willing to put a bet in on the flop to take it down. I do not see what value there is straight up limping here. Remember we should never ever ever open limp. DJ just based on the commentary I can only assume you just straight up called him. I do not know how the board ran out but we have no merit in calling this flop. Our equity is just super poor and it is not good value. We he donks like that and we made the preflop mistake already, just give up and save yourself the next few BB.
5 minutes 10 seconds to 5 minutes 17 seconds – We open limp on 2 tables with hands we have no business doing anything with. If you want to play the J8o from the cut off, raise it please. Limping is the shittiest play you can make. Scratch that, limp folding to a standard raise is the worse thing we could do. We are so badly off if we make plays like this, it opens up the door for people to raise with a wider range and just take a bb from us. Seeing as most winrates in holdem are like what 2bb/100 you see how important it is to not make these kinds of plays as they accomplish nothing and are not going to show profit. If you are willing to play the pot, raise it.
6 minutes 06 seconds – Firstly we open limped from UTG with J9s. Even though this is a horrible play, atleast we called this time which is better than folding. We definitely cannot 3 bet him preflop. On the 8Tx flop, we have an open ended straight draw and a flush draw. We should be raising the flop looking to get it in, we have massive amounts of equity even up against an overpair/ set. You can just get it in here. Also I like the bet on turn just because he looks like he is giving up. I also like how you get that you should be value betting this river but I think we can bet a little more than ¼ pot. We have about a pot sized bet and im not sure if ppl at this level vary their calling range due to bet size. I certainly want to bet more here and am happy to shove river. It needs to work more often than 25% of the time for it to show a better winrate than ¼ pot bet and im sure he calls more often than 1 in 4.
7 miuntes and 22 seconds – Why do we call preflop and fold to this flop. It is the only flop/ one of the few that we can continue with. Folding to a c bet is ridiculous. I wanna know your logic here.
8 minutes 20 seconds – Dude, we need to be open raising here, we cannot be flatting preflop. Let us just raise and take the pot down without seeing a flop. I don’t mind the call seeing as we did not raise. But if we raise and he 3 bets, we can just fold our hand and not worry too much. Playing out of position with 75s sucks a lot though. Other than that flop its going to be a struggle to get good value out of it.
9 minutes 22 seconds – We open limp CO with A7s. We open limp again. Don’t do this.
9 Miuntes 34 seconds –We open limp button with K9o. This is horrible. Raise preflop or fold. Just for the sack of xenu, do not open limp.
Btw, as a side note, why 10c preflop and not 3bb? Is there a reason for this that you can explain to me?
11 minutes 9 seconds – We can bet much bigger on the flop. Its 18c How did it get to 18c btw? Why did we min raise preflop. I mean DJ do we have any reason for the weird bet sizings? I don’t mind if you do it but we need to justify it. OK so back to the flop, its either he has an A or not, the bet size is irrelevant tbh. So lets bet closer to 15c than just 9c. Get more money in when he calls.
11 minutes 46 seconds – No DJ, we cannot get an idea of how someone is playing today based off of 3 to 6 hands. Best to still thread as if they were unknown unless they played like 100/0 or something.
11 minutes 55 seconds – I don’t mind the call preflop. But why are we donking into this flop? It’s a situation where only hands that beat us call and all hands we beat will fold so betting is counter- constructive. Ie, don’t bet here. It is much more profitable to call and re-ev on the turn.
12 minutes 2 seconds – Why are we open limping small blind. Can we please just raise here.
12 minutes 36 seconds – Rebuying to 1.2$ for that guy is actually better than buying in for 60bb. He has a plan to shortstack while someone buying in for 60bb has no plan as they are inbetween different theory levels. What is rampaging?
13 minutes – Why not rebuy when bust out, what if there are some big fish at the table? Do we still leave?
14 minutes 59 seconds – We label him as a tight guy. We limp sb v bb here? Just fking raise dammit. Take the pot. Don’t worry to see a flop. Also might I remind you we are playing T2 here and limping. Please just raise.
DJ why when we flop something good, no matter what it is all we do is half pot? We can mix up the bet sizing and bet more.
Again what is a rampager?
A final note. Please when you leave a table do not leave after you just posted the blinds. Wait till your UTG to leave. Please.
Originally Posted by dj11
I was seeing my HUD, I do not know why it did not come across via Camtasia. Perhaps it is because I was only recording a specif area of the screen, I will try to verify that later.. My intention was side by side tables, and when I uploaded it, that is what I saw. Replaying this morning shows the hands sliding left and right. Not my intention. What I saw before uploading was nice, uncluttered and worthy...
I had no hands on any of these villains, this is ny first real attempt to learn ring. Prior to this, I would dally here and there usually blowing a buy-in. I buy in cheap (~~70%) because I am cheap. Auto refill does not fit with my plan. I can and am nearly always willing to risk 1 buy-in, and with auto refill set on, I can't keep track of where I am until the end of the session. In the past this has not worked well for me.
The last hand, when I left the tables. I left before ending the vid because of the way my system gagged up last vid I made. I thought I had already unchecked the auto post.
Marg, I actually wrote a long reply before realizing that you are pointing out exactly what I need to improve my game. So I deleted my defense, I can't be defensive here, I need the help.
Bet sizing and cbetting being issues I need to alter from my tourney thinking.
7 miuntes and 22 seconds – Why do we call preflop and fold to this flop. It is the only flop/ one of the few that we can continue with. Folding to a c bet is ridiculous. I wanna know your logic here
. OK, here is my logic...I mentioned there that my pot odds at that instant were about 3-1 on the oesd, I want 4-1 there, and it looked like villain was willing to go much further on any turn card. Could have been him Cbetting me, but it felt wrong...that was my logic.
Rampaging is short stacking..... as a strategy.
"DJ why when we flop something good, no matter what it is all we do is half pot? We can mix up the bet sizing and bet more.
Again what is a rampager?
A final note. Please when you leave a table do not leave after you just posted the blinds. Wait till your UTG to leave. Please."
I'm having trouble with bet sizing..in one case you suggest it is right to have a consistent raise, where I thought I was 'mixing it up', and in another case you comment on my inconsistent raises and want bigger raises. Probably great advice for bigger tables, but for the most part at this micro level, they were working.
Leaving the table this time was a function of ending this vid session, not something I often do...Sorry that bugged you guys. I did learn that lesson long long ago.
Good advice, much appreciated Marg, Joebob, and Ima....