good lay down?

.25/.50 NL HE live cash game
Hero in the CO with 7c9c
Villain SB

1 limper ahead of me
I call 0.50
SB raises to $1.00 fold around to me
I call (a little crazy to stay in but I will admit that I got inpatient)

Flop K77 (can't remember suits)
villain bets $1.00
I raise to $2.00
Villain calls pot now $6.50

Turn K (board is now KK77)

Villain bets 0.75

I hate that F'ing King. hands in his range include at least 1 King. I read that he has the K, bet top pair on the flop, and the soft $0.75 into a 6.50 pot is an attempt to trap. Worried that I will go down in flames 7s full of ks to ks full of 7s.

I fold

Villain shows AA...

would you have laid those down?

After the King hits and the villain only bets .75 into the $6.50 pot i see red flags that he did not hit the king nor have the 7. That bet in my eyes represents a pocket pair not the K or 7. I actually raise this bet to $3.50 or $4 cause of my weak read on the villain. If he then calls then i play cautiously on the river.

If they had checked, I would have thought it to be a trap...but the .75 bet...I would have called and wanted to see the river of fate...but too many times, I have fallen victom to the full house higher than my full house, so really, its hard to say. Would you rather be kicking yourself for laying it down as you did, or for not laying down and the opposition having the other king? Thant's how I determine if I should lay a hand down or not...

Interesting. I know that he was worried I had the King (obviously, but also a close friend so I get the benefit of after the fact discussion). I think next time i will bet 1/2 pot and see what happens.

The psychology is interesting, because in the previous week's game I had lost my stack when I had pocket Qs betting on a board with JJJ - villain on that hand (different guy) had KK. Obviously, that one was still with me.

Cheecho said:

... and the soft $0.75 into a 6.50 pot is an attempt to trap...

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I believe that the weak attempt the villain made was a blocking bet and feel he was just as worried as you were when the 2nd king fell... you're cue probably should have been when he bet less than previously... look at the progression of his pattern on each street...

soft $0.75 into a 6.50 pot
would you have laid those down?

Couldn't fold to such a soft bet.
If it was a value bet then so be it, if it was a trap attempt to entice a raise then I wont fall for it, because a raise will most likely only be called by a better hand.
But then I have no information for the river (raising could have provided information or misinformation, so still not definitive).
So will re-evaluate the position on the river with what appears most appropriate then. (Of course it will probably be an ace).

even the preflopraise and flopbet is weak. He raised to 1$, you call and the 0,50$ of the limper and BB make the pot 3$. He bets only 1/3. Ok, maybe this is his standard value bet size but he should bet bigger pre and postflop to get value. You can have a lot of small and middle PPs, probably no Kx but maybe you peel one of with your PPs because he would cbet his whole range on this flop.

And there is no way you fold the turn. It looks so much like a blocking bet. Think about the hand from his point of view: If he has Kx he won't call the flop because he puts you exactly on 7x and is hoping to hit a K and is now afraid that you will check behind. He probably calls the flop because he thinks you are bluffing and will let you continue.

Call the turn and bet the river if he ck to you and if he bets very small again on the river I would raise for value because now it's certainly a blocking bet or just call if you are really a bit afraid