Getting better at texas hold'em online

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Hello!

How do i improve my game and skills in texas hold'em online when getting started?

Is there anything i need think abaout when i play and HOW SHOULD I PLAY?

Any tips or anything else that can improve my game now in the begining so i atleast are playing so i am on profit and not loosing my money..

I am playing on microstakes tables now in the begining on pokerstars..

All the help i would be very thankful for!

Take care guys:)
 
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The quickest way to become at least a breakeven player is to learn to play a sound TAG style of poker. Basically, micro-players make lots of poor and mediocre plays that cost them money / chips. By playing solid, you tend to make fewer of these plays yourself.
 
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Yeah, i like the TAG style of play alot, i do try to play TAG style poker all the time and when i do i do win more often than what would do if i was calling with not good hands.. So that makes sence!

But how abaut all this position and odds talk that everybody talks abaout and says is so important when u playing hold'em..
 
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Welcome!

Playing tag is probably the best style of play for beginners. Also, you'll understand why position and odds are important once you learn more about the game and acquire more experience. So for now, just start playing and reviewing hands, and the concepts will become clear. Don't be shy to post hand histories on forums too, it is also very helpful.
 
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twohaha said:
Welcome!

Playing tag is probably the best style of play for beginners. Also, you'll understand why position and odds are important once you learn more about the game and acquire more experience. So for now, just start playing and reviewing hands, and the concepts will become clear. Don't be shy to post hand histories on forums too, it is also very helpful.
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Ty!

Yeah i though that would be the best way to play and start out..

Were should i put my hands histories?
 
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You need to play more hands to comprehend some situations.
Read some poker books.
Need play asnd learn more and more.




Stay focused all time.


U will play MTT,cash,stt?
 
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Just play some poker matches and you will automatically see how the situation is at the table and so improve your skills. Play some tournements to get better at tournements or some cash games to see how they work.
 
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Experience, the more you play the more you get good at it, also if you are now starting out you could read up online and watch some videos , these will help improve your game. Good luck and have fun at the tables.
 
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i can suggest playing as much as you can while trying to pay the most attention to all detail... its hard when you don't know what to look for/what to expect, so what i would do is look up the basic math/odds that you can remember so the "hard" part becomes second nature... then you spend your time detailing others actions... and get a chance to pay attention to the way they play... that's where the true fun/skill comes in...

playing the people, not the cards ;)

edit - but remember to walk before you run.. and to crawl before you walk ;)
 
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Nickwastaken said:
i can suggest playing as much as you can while trying to pay the most attention to all detail... its hard when you don't know what to look for/what to expect, so what i would do is look up the basic math/odds that you can remember so the "hard" part becomes second nature... then you spend your time detailing others actions... and get a chance to pay attention to the way they play... that's where the true fun/skill comes in...

playing the people, not the cards ;)

edit - but remember to walk before you run.. and to crawl before you walk ;)
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Ty for all the info!

But i dot really understand the thing u mean when u say i should look up at the basic math/odds..

I dont understand what all this means, i hear abaut it alot..

Can somebody pleace help me explain what theese things mean because all the pros and all the guys teaching are allways talking abaout how important it is..

The two things is..

-Odds, Potodds
-Position

I dont really understand it and i really want bacause i think it can help my poker alot!
 
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try pokerstars, they have a great school, good trainers, quality videos, and also the league is very tough, and the freerolls of the open league are way better than the others freerolls because they don´t give almost any money so people try to play for the league therefore are good for the process of learning
 
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Just posting now to get subscribed, it will remind me to post you a longer answer about odds outs pot odds...
 
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DrazaFFT said:
Just posting now to get subscribed, it will remind me to post you a longer answer about odds outs pot odds...
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Hey!

I can not thank you more!

It means the world to me if you could help me out to be a better player:)
 
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Try to get cheap flops with suited connectors and learn positions and when you get good hands play them aggressive! Because there is many players in micros who dont know anything about positions and they called lot of big 3bets some bad hands in oop, because they want gamble. play tight first and when you get better you can try more creative lines! GL:)
 
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I just wan't to know aswell if i should play fixed limit or NL?

I am currenlty playing micro on pokerstars 0.01-0.02 Fixed limit..

What you guys think?
 
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There is a more than one good article out there about outs pot odds, hand odds, rule of 2 and 4. You'll definitely should check strategy articles on this site and basic poker articles on poker school online. if you cant find them i can pm you the links of what you should check out...

Out is a card that if get drawn on board makes your hand stronger or completes your draw, now when i think about it you might check the poker lingo or what it's name here on sticked treads on this section. Now when you look at your hand, easiest way is to look at it on flop, lets say you have suitedconnectors 78h and the board comes in 96K of rainbow, what you get is open ended str8 draw, any T or any 5 will give you str8 there is a 4 tens and 4 fives in deck which means that 8 cards will complete your draw thus you have 8 outs. Now lets say that with the same holding as above you get different flop with A3 of hearts and J of clubs, you flopped flush draw, there is 13 carda of each suit on the deck, you hold 2, there are 2 on the board and remaining 9 will give you flush, so you have 9 outs.

this by itself doesnt mean much but with knowing your outs you can calculate percentage or odds of this to happen by using rule of 2 and 4.
With knowing your outs you can calculate the percentage by multiplying your outs with 4 and see the chances of hitting your card in next 2 streets or with 2 if you wanna see the percentage of hitting it on 1 street, if you are on turn of if you only wanna see the turn. With examples above you have 8x4=32% to hit str8 with oesd on next 2 streets or 8x2=16% on next street, with FD there is 9x4=36% with rule of 4 and 18% with rule of 2.


Ill comeback with pot odds in a few minutes it is really difficult to write this much on phone...

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Read these;
https://www.cardschat.com/poker-strategy.php
Once a week until you understand everything they suggest. You might read these 30 times. In between get in at least 1000 hands per week. Sounds like a lot, but it really isn't if you are playing online. One long session of single tables or one short session of 8 tables.

Are you sure about which game fits your fancy? If not first figure that out, then stick to it.
 
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Ok, pot odds...
pot odds are the ratio between total pot and the amount you need to invest to win the entire pot. Lets say there is 10 bucks in pot and someone bets 5 bucks, you need to pay 5 bucks to win 15 bucks which is 3 to 1 or 3:1, that means that you are winning 3 times more money than you invest in pot. Now if the bet was pot size you would have 2 to 1 pot odds to call. You understand the math right? Total pot, bet included opposed to your investment needed are pot odds.

Now like in my previous post pot odds itself also doesn't mean much. but if you use them with hand odds you will have clear image of what you should do in every pot lets say that you have oehe on flop the pot is 10 bucks and for the sake of simplifying the example ill say that opponent have only 5 bucks left and he ships it in, like i said it above that is 3 to 1 pot odds to call, now you should look at hand odds and outs and see that you have 32% chances to hit the str8 which is little worse than 2:1. What that means, that means that you should always call when your hand odds are better than pot odds, or bigger percentage of you hitting the hand than percentage of money you need to invest in the pot, that way win or lose you will be winning longterm in that kind of hands because when you hit with that hand you will win more money than you lose each time you miss the draw, this is also called playing within the odds, opposed to this playing against the odds would be lets say that you are on the turn with oesd and need to pay pot size bet, pot odds are again 3 to 1 but this time you have 16% chances which, is worse than a 4 to 1 hand odds and you should fold, because you would lose long term if you call...

I intentionally used the all in example because it is easier to understand the concept that way, with possible more money to come in later streets it gets slightly complicated with implied odds and reversed implied odds but you will get there, make sure you figure this out so far...

I hope that this is helpful, feel free to hit me if you need anything...

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Ok, pot odds...
pot odds are the ratio between total pot and the amount you need to invest to win the entire pot. Lets say there is 10 bucks in pot and someone bets 5 bucks, you need to pay 5 bucks to win 15 bucks which is 3 to 1 or 3:1, that means that you are winning 3 times more money than you invest in pot. Now if the bet was pot size you would have 2 to 1 pot odds to call. You understand the math right? Total pot, bet included opposed to your investment needed are pot odds.

Now like in my previous post pot odds itself also doesn't mean much. but if you use them with hand odds you will have clear image of what you should do in every pot lets say that you have oehe on flop the pot is 10 bucks and for the sake of simplifying the example ill say that opponent have only 5 bucks left and he ships it in, like i said it above that is 3 to 1 pot odds to call, now you should look at hand odds and outs and see that you have 32% chances to hit the str8 which is little worse than 2:1. What that means, that means that you should always call when your hand odds are better than pot odds, or bigger percentage of you hitting the hand than percentage of money you need to invest in the pot, that way win or lose you will be winning longterm in that kind of hands because when you hit with that hand you will win more money than you lose each time you miss the draw, this is also called playing within the odds, opposed to this playing against the odds would be lets say that you are on the turn with oesd and need to pay pot size bet, pot odds are again 3 to 1 but this time you have 16% chances which, is worse than a 4 to 1 hand odds and you should fold, because you would lose long term if you call...

I intentionally used the all in example because it is easier to understand the concept that way, with possible more money to come in later streets it gets slightly complicated with implied odds and reversed implied odds but you will get there, make sure you figure this out so far...

I hope that this is helpful, feel free to hit me if you need anything...

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U are amazing man, cant thank you enough!

I dont understand it all yet but i understand parts of it and i will read and try to figure it out every day and i think finally in soon time i will get the hang of it and really have this in mind when i play..

Everything atm is so overwhelming because everything is so new to me but i am learning new stuff everyday and i am playing better everyday so i think i will figure that out aswell..

I tried to contact u with a PM but i haven't posted 15 post on the forum yet so i couldn't send the PM lol but as soon as i can i will send a mess to you mate!:)

Take care!
 
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Glad it was helpful, take some time, let the info to settle somewhere in your mind, then read it again take time to read strategy articles here on cc, you have the link in some previous post, dont try to figure it out in one night, take time, you have taken the right approach to the game, keep doing the same and you will see big progress fast, just remember noone ever become winer over night, dont get frustrated and let it go just because you didnt crush it in first 1k hands...

Good luck, keep posting, we might see at the tables at cc fr...

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