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deumsac

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Okay, so I'm in mid position in my first CC freeroll, and the person on the button min-raises to 120 (this is a freeroll- 92 remain, and average stack is about 2k, and I have 2.4k). That player has 6 or 7k chips. I have QQ, and I was like, "I'm not going to re-raise this time, let's see the flop." I'm the only one who calls, and I'm guessing maybe he has a pocket pair of some sort (IE 88, 99 maybe). Flop comes QK7, all different suits. I think okay, I'm going to slow play, and I check, and he checks. By then, there is 330 in the pot, and the turn comes; it's an Ace (2 clubs on the board now). I fire out 165 chips, and he raises, and I re-raise, etc. and then I'm all-in. He turns over pocket Aces.

Should I have re-raised pre-flop? Or bet more after the flop? It seems like I maybe should have fired after the flop more (maybe go all in?).


Also, I have another question:

After a flop where other people have checked, and I think it's possible I could raise and win the pot, I like to bet half the pot or the whole pot. However, I don't know what to do when someone calls. In the game, I raised 4xBB thinking I could bluff, but someone called. Is it good that I just check after the turn? (every time that happened, I got read perfectly and they bet after the river or turn, since I just checked after they called...)
 
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Checking after the flop, to slow play wasn't a good play, imho, there was a king in the flop. I would have fired out a pot size bet to gauge the strength of his hand. He had Pocket aces, so he probably would have called...but giving him a chance to catch that ace on the turn was a mistake...

If you are bluffing with a big bet and then checking every time, yes they will get a good read on you. I think it is called a continuation bet where you fire out another big bet to try to make them believe that you are not bluffing.
 
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Firstly betting the flop depends on the player in question. Against a agressive player on a rainbow flop im happy to check to intice a bet, but against a reg/semi-sensible player im putting chips in the pot. Either way, even if you had bet the flop im fiarly sure you'd still have both ended AI and you would have lost, its poker.

Second question dpends massivley on the board texture. Does the turn card represent a good card you could credibly double barrel on? Are you betting into calling stations? Honestly this is a very general situation and more info is needed.
 
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Well regarding your first question, in that situation you couldn't have doneanything to win the pot there. even a big raise on the flop might not havescared him... but even if it would have, you definitly should be raising witha trio on the flop... good choice with the slow playing. What I wouldrecommend is that you raise with your big pocket pairs preflop... You don'twant an ace or a king coming up tthere and then you could be totally ruined.Regarding what to do after they call your bluff... well you have to analise thehand. Is there a possible flush or a straight going on the board? Would thisperson call this kind of a raise to look for this straight or flush? If so... thenyou could possible raise again, that is if you think they called to try to catch.But if they just called, and there is no possibility out there, well that usuallymeans that they have something worth calling, or they already read you,so its about time you leave the hand.
 
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i'm not sure i get this. your in middle position and he's on the button. so you limp/called preflop? you got good starting hand and the blinds are worth picking up make it 2.5x atleast. then if your raised you can see how it goes from there. ok on the flop bet right out. there are 2 broadway cards so there likely to be able to call a bet. also you want to start building a big pot to get it all in easier later. the ace should scare you a little as its the 3rd broadway card and a str8 my have you beet. but all in all i think i got to pay off here. this is a hand where even if you play it right you get stacked. but it would of been way better to get the money in ahead.
 
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Second question dpends massivley on the board texture. Does the turn card represent a good card you could credibly double barrel on? Are you betting into calling stations?

Yeah, I think I should at the board texture and see what I could represent; then there are all the other aspects. I never really thought about that much. :)

When I bet, though, if I want to bluff someone out by trying to represent, say an ace pair after an ace comes up on the flop, and then the other guy calls. What should I do after the turn card comes? This is general, but I find myself checking and folding whenever he makes a bet. Recurringly, the other guy checks on the turn (maybe thinking I'm inducing a bet), and then decides to bet after I check again on the river.
 
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