Originally Posted by Keith_MM
whilst you may think it reasonable , as a cash ring game player it seemed quite high for a HUsng beginner. without looking into it , i'm guessing that anyone wanting to learn HUsng's could probably access enough content on cardrunners or deuces cracked for a lot less initially to see whether they liked that form of poker.300$ seemed like a big up front outlay (for me) to put up for a game i may not even like. It also seemed a bit vague as to how much actual coaching you'd get from fydor as it seemed like you have access to his team who could well just be all the other people signed up for the "mastermind" and giving their opnion with the only guarantee i remember being 1 video a week . no mention of what stakes that video would be at as i'm pretty sure $100+ HUSNGs play way differently than the $1.50s most players would start off at.
1.50s are 1.44 +0.06 . if you win 5.5 out of 10 you win 15.84 and cost 15 to enter so $0.84 profit per 10 games. to cover that $100 a month coaching fee beginners will have to play nearly 1200 games per month ( 40 games per day) just to cover the coaching cost and rake and this is assuming that they automatically start winning more games than they lose.Maybe i'm being cynical , but the only winrate type stuff shown was his winnings graph, nothing to show how the people who this is aimed could expect to earn at. Granted , you can say the 100$ a month is an investment that you put in at the start which will be repaid from winnings later on, but you still have to grow your bankroll from winnings to move etc in order to be able to make those returns later on.
Anyway , that's essentially why i passed on the "opportunity". For HUsngs regs at micro stakes who are already winning and have a base knowledge the maths may make more sense for them as they are already over the profitability hurdle and can make the move through the stakes quicker.
You're right, I could have probably done a better job explaining the exact details of what you should expect in the private group...I hope this ties up some of the loose ends. If not, feel free to ask more questions as I'd be glad to clarify.
#1 Yes, you'll be getting a new 1-hr video every week. However, this is NOT just going to be a general video of my game-play or a hand-history review. These videos are going to be step-by-step learning guides to teach you everything you need to know to learn/improve and ultimately crush HUSNG. Everything from the fundamentals, to basic theory, to specific elements of HUSNG that you need to understand and apply. Again, I understand that the $100s play way differently than the low stakes so my lessons will be customized to the stakes my students are playing. I have a lot of experience coaching lower-stake players, so I know how to coach them accordingly. Also, I don't have a "team". I'll be in the group leading all conversation, debates, and answering questions daily.
#2 Yes, 100$ a month for 3 months is a considerable investment. However, I can guarantee that the value you will get in this group will make it will worth it. I also remember saying that all the information you need is probably already out there on the internet if you look long enough, but in my coaching experience, I've found that alot of students have a hard time applying the information and lack of confidence usually leads to confusion regarding if they are actually applying them correctly. This is why I've structured the group this way...most low stake players need constant support and re-assurance that they are doing things well (or not well, and need correction). Again, there's a big difference between having the information and actually staying on track without falling off the wagon. I can't stress how much support, motivation, and accountability are important in someone's development and usually these three characteristics differentiate a player that gives up and quits vs a player who sticks to it and achieves greatness.
#3 This is a long term investment, and I did explain that in the webinar as well. I encourage people to sign up for at least 3-months because you simply won't see results after 1-month and I'm not trying to hide that from anyone. This is also why I gave a significant discount for the 3-month package. I only want students who are committed to sticking with thing long enough to see considerable long term results. Also, I don't expect people to play 1200 games a month and make back their 100$ investment every month. If someone is willing to make the sacrifice upfront and remember that this is a long term investment, this is likely going to provide disproportionate results in the long term.
#4 There's a big difference between watching general videos that weren't make for you vs watching videos about your particular play and working with someone who will help you with your specific needs. So, yes you can find plenty of videos of me coaching online, however getting videos tailored to your specific needs/leaks are way more applicable and hold much more value.
Thanks for bringing this up, I probably should have been more clear on the webinar about the exact details, but this was my first-ever webinar so I guess I now know what I can improve on!
Hope this helps, good luck