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Rock Star
Silver Level
Have some of you ever though about having better estimate of left outs when there are a lot of folded cards from the deck from the other players?
For example
You hold a hand like 98s, you're seated on the cutoff and you are playing against the UTG, who, you think, is probably hold two higher cards, like KQo or something like this. Then the flop comes T87 rainbow, and then, you get an OESD (open ended stragiht draw, for those who don't know) and hit the medium pair. In theory you have 13 outs, three 9, two 8, four 6, and four Jacks, but and the folded cards, I mean, there were 7 players who didn't play that hand, and probably there's a very nice chance there are one or two Jacks,sixes, nines and eights in those folded hands, don't you think? and then our outs decrease and we could be making a -EV decision.
Well I know it may be a very neurotic thinking, but I just want to know your opinion about "lost or folded outs".
Thank you for response
For example
You hold a hand like 98s, you're seated on the cutoff and you are playing against the UTG, who, you think, is probably hold two higher cards, like KQo or something like this. Then the flop comes T87 rainbow, and then, you get an OESD (open ended stragiht draw, for those who don't know) and hit the medium pair. In theory you have 13 outs, three 9, two 8, four 6, and four Jacks, but and the folded cards, I mean, there were 7 players who didn't play that hand, and probably there's a very nice chance there are one or two Jacks,sixes, nines and eights in those folded hands, don't you think? and then our outs decrease and we could be making a -EV decision.
Well I know it may be a very neurotic thinking, but I just want to know your opinion about "lost or folded outs".
Thank you for response