Flopping a low Flush

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Hi everyone

I am fairly new to poker and when playing suited connecters/gappers I occasionally face the dilemma of trying to work out how to play after flopping a flush on a full ring table.

For example, if I am in a pot with multiple limpers and I am holding a speculative suited hands such as 7h 5h

The flop comes three hearts e.g. 2h 3h Qh

Someone in early/middle position shoves

What should I do?

I guess what I am trying to ask is in general how do I play when I not only do not have the nuts flush but not the 2nd/3rd/4th nuts either??

Since it is a full ring table, there is a reasonable chance that someone has a higher flush, but then why would they shove rather than value bet??
Could someone be semi-bluffing with Ah 7c or something like that??

Also, if there are three hearts on the board and two in my hand, that makes it less likely for another player to be holding two hearts??

Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated

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It all depends on the situation, but more often than not I would fold if someone shoves and I have a very low flush. But let's say the guy who shoves is short-stacked, then I would consider calling because he could definitely have Ah 7c as you said. It also helps if you have a good read on him, has he shoved several hands earlier? Or is he super tight?
 
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Thanks, that seems like sensible advice :)
I also wonder whether a short stack might potentially shove with the nuts to try and make it look like a bluff and to get called rather than try and slow play it
 
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The trouble is that a lot of people will shove with just the Ah. Low flushes are tricky to play. You'll usually have the best hand, but if another flush card comes, you'll often have to fold.
 
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in 90% times i fold but if i have been knowing that my opponent bluffs ofter or smoething like that i call. If there is not shove and some one raises i call but if there comes another heart... i fold cuz 7 high is not a good flush
 
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The example you gave is a loser. You should not have been in the hand. This is a big problem being a new player.

Yes, playing suited connectors can be profitable, you are playing them in the wrong situation which can cost you a lot of money.

If you are limping with a speculative hand, it needs to be one that has the potential to flop a BIG hand. A good example is a small pair looking for a set. Another good example is a small suited Ace. If you flop a flush, you have the nut flush. Playing for a low flush or small straight in a limped pot will end badly more often than not.

The time to play suited connectors is actually when it is a raised pot. This is where a poker calculator really helps. Hands like 45s, 87s, are good hands against big pairs like AA, KK. You can make a straight, flush, flop 2 pair, trips, ect.. In micro limits villains commonly raise big cards, it can be profitable to play suited connectors in position. In limped pots, they go in the muck.
 
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The example you gave is a loser. You should not have been in the hand. This is a big problem being a new player.

Yes, playing suited connectors can be profitable, you are playing them in the wrong situation which can cost you a lot of money.

If you are limping with a speculative hand, it needs to be one that has the potential to flop a BIG hand. A good example is a small pair looking for a set. Another good example is a small suited Ace. If you flop a flush, you have the nut flush. Playing for a low flush or small straight in a limped pot will end badly more often than not.

The time to play suited connectors is actually when it is a raised pot. This is where a poker calculator really helps. Hands like 45s, 87s, are good hands against big pairs like AA, KK. You can make a straight, flush, flop 2 pair, trips, ect.. In micro limits villains commonly raise big cards, it can be profitable to play suited connectors in position. In limped pots, they go in the muck.

Thanks for your response, I think I get your reasoning as the point of playing suited connectors is to be paid off when facing a big hand so when you flop well you can be paid off handsomely.

I get in principle that most people aren't Tom Dwan or Gus Hansen and speculative hands should be mucked to avoid the reverse implied odds of hitting a lot flush, but in this case if we are calling from the BB in a limped pot this situation could potentially arise...
 
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With a low flush you should still play as if you have the nuts. If a forth card of your suit comes up, then you have to worry about high cards.
 
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