My first video 6 tables of 2NL – really need some help please.

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Warning – The following contains no sound and some very bad play. I’ve just got Camtasia and still need to get a mic.


Don’t worry; it’s only 20 minutes long and I will not be posting another video until I do have sound so I can walk everyone through my thought process, and provide some good Australian jokes and colloquialisms. J


Making this video I was conscious of how I’ve always play ring games so I didn’t change a thing. I thought because I’m recording it I may play tighter cause I’m about to show you all, but the only way to get true and accurate feedback is to play exactly how I’ve always played.


As you will see I ended up with shocking results. By my calculation I ended on -59.25bb/100.


I won’t lie, I’m a little embarrassed and ashamed posting this video, but I need help and this will hopefully be the best start.


I’ll apologise if this bores you to tears.


I’m seriously thanking anyone in advance for your feedback and advice.


I look forward to making better quality videos soon, hopefully with better results aswell.


Please fellow cc’ers rip into me (I need it).

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Thanks to all
Custo
 
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Downloading now, and I assume you would like comments in this thread. Trust me the comments won't be bad and all of us when starting out cash games "exposed" our bad habits but most of us learned and got a LOT better :)
 
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Yes please. comments in this thread will be great. I look forward to the open conversation that should start up and looking forward to bettering my ring games.
 
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Helpful hints even while I download:

- No sound = we don't get to hear your thoughts on why you do what you do. I'da waited to get a mic. But I'll give this a gander since it's only 20 mins long.

- 136MB for only a 20-minute MOV file = too big. IceMonkey has a "How to" thread somewhere on making good quality MOV's with a small file size. Either that or try making a high quality AVI and run it through a compressor (there's one called "Super") like I do. I can make a good quality 60-min AVI and compress it down to under 100MB with little or no quality loss.
 
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Thanks Sticker. To be honest I've already downloaded and watched Ice's video, but still need to make some modifcations to the settings, it's all very new to me.

I know the no sound will be a drag but i'm in a small spot of desperation and really wanted some early feedback in general on my approach to ring games.

Next video will be super.

Thanks for viewing, look forward to hearing back
 
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Overall = Nice first video ... kinda hard to follow 6 tables when you are trying to make comments, usually these videos are 4 tables. Also feel free to compress the video further, the quality was great on this one, and it only has to be good.

Sorry if the comments are very cut-and-dry and I dont put in the "atta boy!" comments in there, i am making dinner while doing this so I just got to the parts I felt like you needed some help with. Anyways nice job, you're well on your way.

Comments:

1) Weird place to be sitting for preferred seating, but if thats what you like, so be it.

2) You need to download PT3 or HEM and use the trial to get use to using a HUD. If you are serious about cash game poker and multitabling using a HUD is a must.

3) Never post blinds out of turn. Just wait for the big blind. Maybe you did that for the sake of getting the video going.

4) Use the auto-reloader built into pokerstars to always keep you at the max buyin.

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1:02 = Bottom left with A9. SB limps, you need to raise that to $0.08 or $0.10 preflop, dont let him limp into you.

1:25 = Bottom left with 76. You auto-folded this ... i would wait. If everyone folds you should be raising this to steal the BB.

2:43 = Bottom right with J5, same comment as 1:25

3:12 = Top left with ATs. Incorrect raise amount. I've been drilled to do 4x big blind plus 1 per limper, so that means here we're raising to 12cents.

3:26 = Bottom left with A6o. This is a potential steal situation so don't auto fold.

3:45 = Top Right with AJo, again use the 4x bb + per limper ... so that should be 10 cents. Just being a stickler and consistant with my comments.

3:48 = ATs on 8JA board with action. I don't like the call, I think this should be a place where you raise it to $0.35 to $0.40. If he flats or raises you know he probably has you outkicked, otherwise they're folding and you win now.

4:13 = Top right, AJo on board K6Q. Guy min-donk bets into you, so he has something meaning you're beat ATM with another guy to act. I think you're best move was to flat that.

5:09 = Middle bottom with 44. Don't auto-call the 2 cents. It's actually a place you should be raising ... Zach has preached to me the benefits of always raising pocket pairs in an unraised pot. However, I do see benefits limping at micro levels (no strong aware players) with 22-66 in UTG and UTG+1. Anyways his $0.18 is just under the "right price" to call so you should have flatted that PF raise.

5:46 = Bottom left, hit the flat-call button against raise with A7 suited. This should be a fold. If you want to be Mr Aggressive i'd respect a 3bet even, just be careful that if you did that to mind his shortstack as he might shove.

6:53 = Top left with 68o, you caught a piece of that flop vs a limper, I'm betting that flop

9:25 = bottom left with 88, i dont like the limp there at all, that should be a raise

9:45 = Bottom middle with AJo, I really dont like the limp there, that should be a raise.

10:06 = bottom middle with AJ on 998 board w/ 2 villains. I might have cbet that right there. I would love to hear other's input.

13:11 = Top Left, A8s ... you limped in UTG+1 here. Not sure if you are flush-mining, but this is a standard fold. (you did it again at 13:46 & 15:27)

14:30 = Folding the 46off to the ~pot bet. You have top pair and a gutshot, but I actually think it's a decent fold, since some of your outs might be dirty to a flush. I'm sure BW07507 would have open shoved that lol

15:17 - Bottom middle, K4 suited auto-fold. Again, steal spot. Just be patient and if folded around, definite steal attempt (same thing at 19:18 on bottom right)

16:51 - Top right, 76o auto-folded, i might want to use my position here and raise it up and take the blinds + limpers.

17:12 - Top Middle, ATo on 9A9 board. You donk bet into him (just the definition of the term when you bet into someone that raised preflop and you act first on the flop). It's not a good move, this is a standard check-raise or even check-call situation to extract money from him. Same hand @ 17:22 I don't like your bet size on the turn, I think that should be at least 50% of the pot and probably 66%.
 
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Wow. Now thats some good comments. Only upset I'm at work and cant watch the video. Going straight home in 5 hours to re-watch and follow those comments. Thanks Ice
 
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too late, icemonkey already said pretty much everything I wanted to say. Just to generalize, you should be more aggressive pre-flop. Start raising in position more when there's limpers in front of you and watch the money start rolling in.
 
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too late, icemonkey already said pretty much everything I wanted to say. Just to generalize, you should be more aggressive pre-flop. Start raising in position more when there's limpers in front of you and watch the money start rolling in.

Cheers

To be honest I find that I do limp a lot more in ring than i do in SnGs or Mtts. The reason is i've found at 2NL I always get 3-4 callers when I raise and as I miss the flop more than I hit it I've figured I may aswell try and see cheap flops and be aggresive if I hit.

Should I stop doing that?
 
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I think you basically say something along the lines of my sentiments I sent via PM.

- How serious can we be about comments at 2nl? I think you should start at 10nl tbh ... i guess this was for a first go and that's fine.

- You are too passive preflop and need to get the mentality of a bully. Australian men are tough badasses, I've seen Crocodile Dundee and Australian Rules Football. Joe Hachem might be a nice guy away from the table but make no doubt about it is a straight up ***** at the table. My cousin who lives in Brisbane punched a shark once while surfing. This is the mentality you must project at the cash game tables.

- Double check your bet sizing, and even try to use AHK scripts (specifically the betpot script)

- Final comment : Yes I realize how ironic me giving this advice is to you. If you look back at February and March, it's the identical advice that ChuckTs was giving me. The one thing you *should* learn from me is persistance, I never gave up and always did something to keep learning.
 
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Thanks Ice. One thing I'll need to know is what is AHK scirpts?
 
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well I just watched it after getting some free time, I read what Ice said and I was a little supriised you wanted me to comment since better players in cash like Ice are going to teach you a lot more. So with that said......follow Ice's instructions.

But I can't wait for your next one with sound!
 
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