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im trying to understand the thought process of making an ev positive decision, how one would calculate it , common ev + situations , common ev- situations , anybodys thoughts on the subject ?
 
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I cant tell you much about the subject but your EV is calculated like this

EV=(your equity x amount you win)-(opponent equity x amount you lose)

Now basically making +ev decisions means putting money where you are favorite of when your pot odds are greater than your hand odds or your equity.
 
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I would like to know a little bit more about EV, too. I think it is a nice tool for our game and it is a great skill we should have! If someone can talk a little bit about EV i'd appreciatte that ;)
 
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ok i'll give an example you hold A9 diamonds, 2 diamonds on the flop you're up to the turn at this point and you'll need to hit a diamond on the river to win this hand, the pot is $70, villain bets $20, you have to call $20 to win $90 giving us 4.5:1.

So we have roughly 20% equity meaning we'll hit our hand 1in5 times, so 4 times we'll miss and we will lose $20x4 which is $80 right? But the one time we hit we'll win $90 therefore this particular scenario has a positive expectation (+ev) i tried to explain this as simply as i could, people will most likely be able to explain it better than me but hope i helped a little bit :)
 
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+EV = any play that wins you the pot. - EV = any play that you lose, even if it was the donkiest suckout you've ever witnessed.

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i seem to be on the bad end of all the ev+ situations im in , bout time i got paid off ,
 
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ok i'll give an example you hold A9 diamonds, 2 diamonds on the flop you're up to the turn at this point and you'll need to hit a diamond on the river to win this hand, the pot is $70, villain bets $20, you have to call $20 to win $90 giving us 4.5:1.

So we have roughly 20% equity meaning we'll hit our hand 1in5 times, so 4 times we'll miss and we will lose $20x4 which is $80 right? But the one time we hit we'll win $90 therefore this particular scenario has a positive expectation (+ev) i tried to explain this as simply as i could, people will most likely be able to explain it better than me but hope i helped a little bit :)

thank you so much for your help. I understood the idea but i know that it is difficult to calculate that at beggining but it is very important ;)
 
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Since online poker is rigged, the +EV play is actually to get your chips or money in when the card math says you're -EV. :p

im assuming this is a joke , isnt the "online poker is rigged" line for the mentally dubious ?
 
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