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What is it ?
How is it calculated?
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equity is a player's expected share of the winning pot...
 
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Pretty sure I've got a few decent articles saved on my other computer.... I'll dig them up and post one soon (in a game at the moment, lol)
 
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Yeah equity refers to your chance of winning the pot. You can never calculate the exact equity you have in a hand because you don't know your opponents cards. You can though calculate your equity against a range of hands that your opponent has, in which case you should try something like pokerstove.
 
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Pretty sure I've got a few decent articles saved on my other computer.... I'll dig them up and post one soon (in a game at the moment, lol)

Poker Orifice did u loose to a bad beat then switch of the computer? lol.
there's no reply ;)
 
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What is it ? Equity is what share of the pot is rightfully yours. This is what you will win or lose on average for a particular play over a large sample size. Simpler situations of equity would involve hands in which players are all in, as I'll show in a moment. Further, equity calculations are more intended for cash games rather than tournaments. Although equities can be calculated, ICM comes into play there.

How is it calculated?
Generally a program, like Pokerstove would be used to calculate equities. For example, let's say you're playing NL and are dealt AA with a stack of 150bb. The player UTG has 125bb and shoves all in. Now this is as easy a decision as you'll have, since you have the nuts you know you are calling. The current pot is 128bb, and you have to put in 125bb to call. In this spot, you know that you will win around 80% of the time.

Using the winning %'s yields the following equity calculation:
.80 (+128bb) + .20(-125bb)

*This is not taking rake into account*
102.4bb + (-25bb) = 77.4bb

The equity of calling in this hand is 77.4bb. This means that if you got into the spot 100 times, you should expect to have made about 7,740 blinds because you make 77.4bb "every" time. Now compare this figure of +77.4 to what the actual result. You are going to either end the hand +128 or -125, both of which are rather far off from your EV.

However, as sample size approaches infinity, the amount won per hand played this way will approach 77.4bb. And that's equity in an abbreviated nutshell.

In practice, equities are going to be based on your estimate of your opponent's range, and then you can use that equity to determine what the best choice is at that moment. Let's say the same scenario played out where UTG shoves all in, but this time you have QQ, and your opponent has 75bb after taking a beat on the previous hand. Well now you have a great hand, but can you call this shove? How do you decide whether to call or not? It all boils down to what range you estimate your opponent will make this play with. You must calculate a range in order to calculate your equity. We did not have to estimate a range in the previous example, as we held the nuts, therefore our opponent's range was irrelevant.

Now assume we know for a fact that this player will open shove here with TT+, AKs. Do we call here? Do we fold? This is where EV comes through. Running the numbers in pokerstove shows QQ as 50.55% equity against this range. The equity of calling here is about 3 blinds, which after rake, may or may not be worth it depending on your stance with variance. The key here is our estimation of our opponent's range. If we are incorrect with that, then the whole equation is flawed.

If, in fact, he is shoving AKo and 99 as well, then our equity jumps to 56%, and it's definitely a call. However, should he be playing a tighter range than we thought, say only KK/AA, our equity is a miserable 22.6% and we must fold.

As you play more, and develop your hand reading, you can improve your ability to estimate ranges. As you can see here, this will help significantly in allowing you to make the most correct decisions at the table, and maximizing your EV on every play.
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holy hell batman, i thought i understood equity pretty well. but that explaination has me so confused, i think i'mma hire a tutor just to help me translate and understand what i am reading every time that you post. lol
 
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If you don't mind, could you let me know in what way it's confusing. I know I lose people from time to time in the math posts, but I never know if it's just because I end up rambling incoherently, or if I'm using too many technical terms, etc. Definitely trying to work on wording my posts so that the majority of people can glean the info I'm trying to put out there.
 
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I think your doing more of EV calculations than equity in that post. The equity is the actual 80% favorite the AA is and hte 77.4bb is the expected value equation.
 
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I've actually always thought of equity and EV as being basically the same thing with two different names.

So in discussing equity, would you instead focus on pot odds type equations? We're being laid about 1:1, therefore need 50%+ equity to call? Then compare that to what we estimate we have, 80% in this case, and thus decide to call?

Okay, yep. I guess I just like making things harder, lol.
 
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i agree, i think you are getting more into ev than equity. but that is neither here nor there. the wording was fine, the equations lost me.
 
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Thanks to all for your input. It seems I've gone from a total donkey to break even or marginaly winning.
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Hi guys,
I'll try to simplify equity for some of you that finds it confusing.
Since I'm a SnG player I'll explain how it affects my play.

As said earlier equity is your share of tournament. At the start of each tournament each player have the same amount of equity, but (thankfully) soon enough skill (among other things) kicks in and that's where each equity changes.

Let's take for example 2$ + 0.40$ FR Sit and Go. At the start of the tournament let's assume that each player have 2$ of equity with the house having it's 4$ (rake - 0.40$ x 10) guaranteed. But as I already wrote above, it's absurd to think each and every player have 2$ of equity, simply because equity depends on a lot of factors including skills, positions, style... So beginner SnG might have 1$ of equity in this particular tournament, while seasoned pro might have 3$ of equity (just an example).

Equity allows you to be a winning player. You actually make money by having higher equity than the players next to you. After each action in tournament equity changes.

For fellow tournaments players general principle is "your equity increases as the number of players decreases" - That's logical.

This is just basic so that you can get a feel for it. There are many more advanced articles on the web involving calculating equity for specific hand and more.
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