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Legend
Bronze Level
People who bluff or bet with weak hand into an empty side pot, is this standard and ok to do or is it complete stupidity and moronic? Is this stupid only in tournaments but ok in cash games, or vice versa, or etc?
Tonight, I went to the casino and here's the full hand history.
UTG+1 ($210~ stack)
MP+2 ( $130~ stack)
Button ($7 stack) this person just got donked hard by utg+1 and is on tilt, very good player imo. plays solid, aggressive game.
I'm BB(Hero with $170~ stack)
UTG+1 raises to $5, mp+2 calls, button goes all-in for $7, I'm in the big blind and it was just $5 more to call with 5h5s. UTG+1 and MP+2 calls $2 more.
Pot is $23(it's supposed to be $29 but $1 jackpot collection, $5 rake since it hit the flop)
Flop comes out 5d 6c Ks
it's a rainbow board, there's an all-in, let's see what my villains do. So I checked.
UTG+1 comes raising in for $20. mp2 folds. I flat-called. Pot is now $63
Turn comes out ANOTHER 5c. I HAVE QUADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wanna see what my villain does. He's been playing like a pos. He comes out betting $50. I was hollywood acting, looking at him, and saying, "you do realize, he's all-in, right? you still have to beat this guy to win." he tells me "well, you do what you gotta do." I "reluctantly"flat-called as if I look weak and just in doubt about my villain's hand. So pot is now $163.
River came out 8s or clubs, it was a black 8. Even though it's tempting to shove all-in or bet out, because if he checks behind, I would regret it so much, but knowing his dumb aggression and what kind of donkey pos he is, I just checked. He shoves all-in. I instantly called but I didn't roll over my quads immediately. I REALLY wanted to know wtf he's been betting into an empty side pot with. He rolls over A2o. WTF?????!!!!!!!!! I don't understand these type of people. A2o, NOTHING on the flop/turn/river, with the all-in and he's bluffing into an empty side pot? Is it just me who think that these are people with no common sense or is it ok to bluff into an empty side pot? I don't see ANY value of bluffing into an empty side pot since if your villain folds, you STILL have to beat the value of ss all-in's hand value to win the pot.
I've seen so many of these plays, live AND online that I have to ask about this. Is it just me who thinks that bluffing into an empty side pot is stupid or am I the wrong one and it's ok to bluff into an empty side pot and that it's standard?
After few hands, I walked out with $350stack($250 profit). Table was down to 6 players bcz short-stack left, donkey lost his remaining stack to another player, so the table went down from 8 players to 6 players). As I left, table broke and 5 players were getting put into different tables. I'm running really hot this past month. I know this streak is gonna end sometime and hopefully when I hit the downswing, I will have the discipline to follow brm like I used to when I played online. I am just flabbergasted imo with people who have no common sense with side pots.
Tonight, I went to the casino and here's the full hand history.
UTG+1 ($210~ stack)
MP+2 ( $130~ stack)
Button ($7 stack) this person just got donked hard by utg+1 and is on tilt, very good player imo. plays solid, aggressive game.
I'm BB(Hero with $170~ stack)
UTG+1 raises to $5, mp+2 calls, button goes all-in for $7, I'm in the big blind and it was just $5 more to call with 5h5s. UTG+1 and MP+2 calls $2 more.
Pot is $23(it's supposed to be $29 but $1 jackpot collection, $5 rake since it hit the flop)
Flop comes out 5d 6c Ks
it's a rainbow board, there's an all-in, let's see what my villains do. So I checked.
UTG+1 comes raising in for $20. mp2 folds. I flat-called. Pot is now $63
Turn comes out ANOTHER 5c. I HAVE QUADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wanna see what my villain does. He's been playing like a pos. He comes out betting $50. I was hollywood acting, looking at him, and saying, "you do realize, he's all-in, right? you still have to beat this guy to win." he tells me "well, you do what you gotta do." I "reluctantly"flat-called as if I look weak and just in doubt about my villain's hand. So pot is now $163.
River came out 8s or clubs, it was a black 8. Even though it's tempting to shove all-in or bet out, because if he checks behind, I would regret it so much, but knowing his dumb aggression and what kind of donkey pos he is, I just checked. He shoves all-in. I instantly called but I didn't roll over my quads immediately. I REALLY wanted to know wtf he's been betting into an empty side pot with. He rolls over A2o. WTF?????!!!!!!!!! I don't understand these type of people. A2o, NOTHING on the flop/turn/river, with the all-in and he's bluffing into an empty side pot? Is it just me who think that these are people with no common sense or is it ok to bluff into an empty side pot? I don't see ANY value of bluffing into an empty side pot since if your villain folds, you STILL have to beat the value of ss all-in's hand value to win the pot.
I've seen so many of these plays, live AND online that I have to ask about this. Is it just me who thinks that bluffing into an empty side pot is stupid or am I the wrong one and it's ok to bluff into an empty side pot and that it's standard?
After few hands, I walked out with $350stack($250 profit). Table was down to 6 players bcz short-stack left, donkey lost his remaining stack to another player, so the table went down from 8 players to 6 players). As I left, table broke and 5 players were getting put into different tables. I'm running really hot this past month. I know this streak is gonna end sometime and hopefully when I hit the downswing, I will have the discipline to follow brm like I used to when I played online. I am just flabbergasted imo with people who have no common sense with side pots.
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