Don't assume online is rigged when playing live

When playing in a physical game, don’t get caught thinking something only happens online. For instance, I’ve had QQ with someone else having KK and won. I’ve had KK lose to a QQ set. I’ve had a nut straight lose to a three card flush. I’ve had a King high three card flush lose to the opponent having the Ace high flush with two clubs. All that stuff people say is rigged online play happens in physical games too. So don’t think that it won’t happen just because you’re playing at a physical table. Assume online play is not rigged and play as cautiously as you would online.

Been saying that for a long time. Things that happen in online happen also in a live game. Live poker is rigged

JonathanAReth said:

When playing in a physical game, don’t get caught thinking something only happens online. For instance, I’ve had QQ with someone else having KK and won. I’ve had KK lose to a QQ set. I’ve had a nut straight lose to a three card flush. I’ve had a King high three card flush lose to the opponent having the Ace high flush with two clubs. All that stuff people say is rigged online play happens in physical games too. So don’t think that it won’t happen just because you’re playing at a physical table. Assume online play is not rigged and play as cautiously as you would online.

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It is a cycle, people come and go, those who understand and are struggling, will remain and those who do not understand and blame the system for their failures, will be silent with the frustrated time. and a wheel to rotate and the cycle continues. People may need the game to be about people, whatever the game, blaming the outside, know that this person in your life off the table believes that each fault is the fault of others. If you are these people, know that it is possible, over time, to gain a higher consciousness. Do not spend all your life blaming external forces, accept that the decisions in your life are in your hands and live with each of them. keep in mind that something unpleasant can happen, it's an accepted life! Going back to poker, there are 3 buttons on the table: give up, pay, increase the choice in our hands. but when the improbable happens for example to a letter in the river, know that it exists, if it did not exist it simply did not happen. Good luck to everyone .

The reason people feel that way is because they don't realize how many additional hands they're seeing per hour. Which increases the likelihood you'll see more bad beats.

lmao....

Johnny,Johnny,Johnny..........you dont read Johnny?i know its rigged and acr refunded me money,and now i know for sure its rigged!well acr anyway,and if one site is doing it or allowing it,then i think our safe bet is to figgure they all are!

Eric Salvador said:

The reason people feel that way is because they don't realize how many additional hands they're seeing per hour. Which increases the likelihood you'll see more bad beats.

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... and see more donks per hour chasing crap. Then you get the same old rants about how their RNG is not up to snuff, poker rooms favor newer players and allow them to win more often in the beginning, the other player was a bot, the software sucks because it always disconnects me when I have pocket Aces, and yada yada yada.

indeed shady....

of course you have your donks on any site...and yes you have your vets screaming about they RNG.....but when the site goes to giving refunds and trying to explain to you why you got cheated?.......as chris carter says......come on man

freddy66 said:

of course you have your donks on any site...and yes you have your vets screaming about they RNG.....but when the site goes to giving refunds and trying to explain to you why you got cheated?.......as chris carter says......come on man

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All I'm saying is that if you go to a live game thinking the things you see online are only because the site is rigged, then you will be busting out when your AA loses to 74o because you never thought 2 pair could have hit a flop like that.

JonathanAReth said:

All I'm saying is that if you go to a live game thinking the things you see online are only because the site is rigged, then you will be busting out when your AA loses to 74o because you never thought 2 pair could have hit a flop like that.

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Yep, but, the difference between online/live is that you have a ton of players online who just don't know how to play. When they shove their Aces all-in preflop and get called by a 74os that sucks out, the site must be rigged. What they may fail to mention is that it was the first hand of the game or maybe the holder of the 74os is the chip leader, and can cover your paltry all-in seven ways to Sunday. Bad beats of this type, in their minds, should never happen at all, ever, under no circumstances.

It is possible to speak and speak about it, it is a subject infinite.In life, there are incredible cases, not seeing not believe.Think about it...

Well I was that type of player. Seeing aces cracked all the time, weird two out rivers and most of the time I wasnt even on the losing side or I was sitting out to say Im biased. I always thought that online maybe it's not rigged but bad beats happened way more than live. And not just because you play more hands online but because of RNG.

But nowadays I tend to see in youtube, more and more live poker with premium hands getting cracked, with magic river cards and even with donkey playing from pro players, so yeah nice post and I completely agree with what you said.

Ps Although watching Tom Dwan vs Patrick Antonius going Heads Up and Patrick having like every hand the nuts makes me feel like even live poker is fixed

https://youtu.be/GItE3McEcMI

Yep, but, the difference between online/live is that you have a ton of players online who just don't know how to play.

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Shady slim, I would say in general I have found the opposite to be true. In my experience Online players tend to be much better than live players.

ok ill share....

as i play 3 live cash games a week,1 stud,2 n/l hold em,and i have played online everyday for a year now,plus i played 2 times a week stud live games from 19 years old till i was 42,and im 52 now,that one thing is for sure its like night and day.you see sooo many more hands online and get beat with the most biggest bunch of crap you can think of.bb sucking out 2 pair with 92 off and crack your aa.well,you hardly ever see such as that live.but as far as better poker players,i dont know about that,ive played pros live and pros online.i can tell you this much to be true.Sammy Farha said it best and i quote.....You can bluff the good players,but not the bad players.Against the bad players you HAVE to have a good hand!.....and this is poker live or online!this is exactly what ive seen over the years.

Live poker is still real chance as compared to online, where its just RNG.

- Any explanation on why i see Ace on 90% of boards in online poker during several days (5K hands)?
- Why 2 people are holding A rags and 3rd and even 4th Ace is coming on the table???
- I've played live poker for 2 years - wanted to see such Acey boards, but i failed.

Mikeloti13 said:

Been saying that for a long time. Things that happen in online happen also in a live game. Live poker is rigged

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Yes, i agree.... lol :rock::rock::rock:

Oh man, don't make stop thinking in this way). It's so pleasand when you are convinced in that the online is rigged. It makes you not to feel the responsibility for the possible mistakes that you do. So, don't make me see the truth)

In my experience, a lot of stuff happens live that is just unbelieveble, stuff that you just cant rig, im not sure for online though, sometimes its just smelly

agree with your reasoning, you just need to understand that in the online poker very much depends on the size of the stack and experienced players know this and therefore call KK with such hand like 8 3 and win, in real poker I have not seen this

Assume it's rigged

This Fish Chums said:

When playing in a physical game, don’t get caught thinking something only happens online. For instance, I’ve had QQ with someone else having KK and won. I’ve had KK lose to a QQ set. I’ve had a nut straight lose to a three card flush. I’ve had a King high three card flush lose to the opponent having the Ace high flush with two clubs. All that stuff people say is rigged online play happens in physical games too. So don’t think that it won’t happen just because you’re playing at a physical table. Assume online play is not rigged and play as cautiously as you would online.

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Not exactly identical, but i started my own thread, where you can post your stories and opinions about online poker being rigged or not. Some are in agreement it's not rigged, but juiced... whatever that means. As i stated in my thread, i've only been playing online since 2012, but i've been playing live ever since i could walk. What you say is true, thing tend to be unpredictable in live games as much as they are in online, or even more, and vice-versa. However, you cannot even begin to compare the two. The odds for the situations you describe... we've all been there, but they are exponentially lower in live tables than in online ones. When is the last time you played a 2000 player, (or more) LIVE tournament in order to compare the two... Some great man once said "If given enough variation, the impossible will happen". True, online games do provide a lot of variation, however, the "impossible" seems to happen more that it should. Alas... none of this is a strong argument, so look at it from the business' perspective. If you were to own pokerstars, and you would have tons of players... would you want them stuck for hours in a tournament with equal chances for everyone? Or would you do something to make the players available for as many games as possible, considering... you do make a living from rakes after all. Don't kid urselves. We all know it, we can't prove it... but the general advice remains the same. Assume it is... or don't. Play with caution, and try to respect the game. With a bit of luck, it will respect u back.

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Yes people don't understand the difference between online poker and live poker, there sceptic about the internet and I seen some pretty spectacular live dealers.

You definitely see more bad beats online than live, and its due to the volume.

You can play many more hands online in a single game than you do live. You can play multiple tables online. I don't believe I have ever seen a person multi-table live.

Online also attracts a greater number of poor players. While these players are the ones that make us want to tear a wall down out of frustration, they are also the same people that you will usually win most of your profit from. With those players, you will generally play the part of the casino and they will keep playing the game like its a slot machine. They will hit the occasional jackpot and everyone will notice and they will tell us all about how they won that one, but long term, they will be the loser.

Amen man, thats Poker. Only losing player assum that Online is rigged...instead of working on there gemeplay they blame the pokerrooms

Its still not rigged, not sure why you would even play if you believed it. The earth is not flat either, if it was kitties would have already pushed everything over the edge.

Whoa. It is rigged. Why would every other entity in life know all of your data, but not an online poker site?
I just won 2 small stakes one ups in a row, the next tourney they made sure to show me an open ended straight draw every time I folded. I resisted until my folding JT would have beat villain's J9. They took me out with AK vs villain's QJ. They saw i'd won a little, I play about 4 tourneys a night, and twos wins for me fits their business model. Don't overthink it. Good Luck!
Has anyone who sells information ever said, "Hey I'm gonna be here at this time. I'll show you 55 is good vs 62." (it's 50/50)?