Originally Posted by bdc100
What prompted this question is that I was in an online tournament with a good TAG player.
As an example, defensively, that player check/folded TPTK heads-up on the river on a A9632 board to sustained pressure on every street (no draws other than the unlikely 87, 54 after he raised 5BB from EP). Then he showed AKs after mucking ..he 'knew' his opponent had 2-pair or a set (he had A6s).
Personally, I would assume the opponent would have KK-TT, AQ-AJ to call a 5BB EP raise, so I would have called his raises all the way ..but these days, with weak players playing every AX at any price, the fold makes perfect sense: you're very likely facing 2-pair.
And when winning, the TAG 'cleaned up': 2/3 of the time with a much better hand, 1/3 of the time with fold-equity because everyone was totally intimidated.
I was thinking of Negreanu's 'Small Ball' chapter in his book. Or maybe I should review Harrington 1 & 2 again (but is his advice 'dated'; it's been many years since I've read his tournament books).
I have been doing a crap load of reading and watching, not sure if I'm learning or not, but here is my take.
The early position raise. You are looking at top 10% of hands, big hands, like AA KK QQ, AQ AK etc
Now to call that raise, do you call with the same or similar hand as the raiser, or hand that will make a completely different hand.
Now the better player, if up against a similar good player, knows the caller likely called much further down the range of the top 10% of hands and As being within that range. That board, that action, those players, good fold.
These guys pretty much know exactly what you are playing and when, because you are likely following all the rules. To beat that, they play something completely different from a better position giving them 2 ways to win the pot to your 1 way.
In addition, the EP raiser knows the caller knows exactly what he has and yet is still very aggressive, not much reason for that aggression unless you have TPTK beat.
Yeah I think I'm getting it now, just need to stop getting fckd and I think I may do OK. LOL