Do you think I should have played differently because of my position?

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Due to my position at risk of having multiple calls think they should have played differently or is KK always in the same?



Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $75/$150 ($15 ante) - 9 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

Wardon (UTG): $5,469.00 (36 bb)
Macrotic (UTG+1): $3,214.00 (21 bb)
BeatThat07 (MP): $6,089.00 (41 bb)
N3vrC0mB8k (MP+1): $1,710.00 (11 bb)
studaddy420 (LP): $2,807.00 (19 bb)
2poopz4sure (CO): $1,287.00 (9 bb)
Alaercio Brasil (BU): $2,294.00 (15 bb)
27vladfan (SB): $1,175.00 (8 bb)
stampo (BB): $945.00 (6 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($360) Hero (Alaercio brasil) is BTN with K K
2 players fold, BeatThat07 (MP) calls $150, 1 fold, studaddy420 (LP) calls $150, 2poopz4sure (CO) raises to $1,272 (all-in), Alaercio Brasil (BU) 3-bets to $2,279 (all-in), 2 players fold, BeatThat07 (MP) calls $2,129, 1 fold

Flop: ($6,340) K Q 4 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($6,340) 3 (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($6,340) J (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $6,340 (Rake: $0)

Showdown:
Alaercio Brasil (BU) mucks K K (three of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 90%, River: 0%)

2poopz4sure (CO) mucks Q K (two pair, Kings and Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 8%, Flop: <1%, Turn: <1%, River: 0%)

BeatThat07 (MP) mucks 9 T (a straight, Nine to King)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 21%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 10%, River: 100%)

BeatThat07 (MP) wins $6,340
 
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Yes!

Fale Brazuca! :D:):D:)
Of course yes. Because there are many odds to villains have stronger hands, or making you unconfortable. Ex: AA have 6 possible combinations, all initial possible hands combinations are 1.326, so if you are in UTG and doesnt have any A, UTG+1 have 6/1326 = ~0.45%; the sme chance for Kings, Queens and all pairs. Now multiply them for the number of players that act after you and watch the trouble that you can get, playing out of position.
 
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He was lucky and I think is lacking transcript some actions.
Due to my position at risk of having multiple calls think they should have played differently or is KK always in the same?



Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $75/$150 ($15 ante) - 9 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

Wardon (UTG): $5,469.00 (36 bb)
Macrotic (UTG+1): $3,214.00 (21 bb)
BeatThat07 (MP): $6,089.00 (41 bb)
N3vrC0mB8k (MP+1): $1,710.00 (11 bb)
studaddy420 (LP): $2,807.00 (19 bb)
2poopz4sure (CO): $1,287.00 (9 bb)
Alaercio Brasil (BU): $2,294.00 (15 bb)
27vladfan (SB): $1,175.00 (8 bb)
stampo (BB): $945.00 (6 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($360) Hero (Alaercio Brasil) is BTN with K K
2 players fold, BeatThat07 (MP) calls $150, 1 fold, studaddy420 (LP) calls $150, 2poopz4sure (CO) raises to $1,272 (all-in), Alaercio Brasil (BU) 3-bets to $2,279 (all-in), 2 players fold, BeatThat07 (MP) calls $2,129, 1 fold

Flop: ($6,340) K Q 4 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($6,340) 3 (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($6,340) J (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $6,340 (Rake: $0)

Showdown:
Alaercio Brasil (BU) mucks K K (three of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 90%, River: 0%)

2poopz4sure (CO) mucks Q K (two pair, Kings and Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 8%, Flop: <1%, Turn: <1%, River: 0%)

BeatThat07 (MP) mucks 9 T (a straight, Nine to King)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 21%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 10%, River: 100%)

BeatThat07 (MP) wins $6,340
 
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Wow that's a hell of a bad beat if I've ever seen one. I think it doesn't matter how you played it because no matter what, you should've won there more often than not and that other guy just got insanely lucky.
 
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You played it perfectly unfortunately you got beat by a player who put in over a third of his stack preflop with T9 sooooooted.
 
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Played absolutely fine what else can you do with KK it's just unlucky.
 
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if he defeats you KK with T9s there is nothing to do just a bad beat, it was terrible the call of the villain but he was very lucky on the river
 
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Alaercio Brasil (BU) mucks K K (three of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 90%, River: 0%)
2poopz4sure (CO) mucks Q K (two pair, Kings and Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 8%, Flop: <1%, Turn: <1%, River: 0%)
BeatThat07 (MP) mucks 9 T (a straight, Nine to King)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 21%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 10%, River: 100%)


I think the numbers tell the story. You were a 72% leader pre-flop and induced two must weaker calls. If you're able to do that consistently you'll be an overall winner.

I wouldn't focus too much on this particular hand.
 
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I don't see anything wrong here,,, well, the call of vilain is sort of wrong, but not totally.. I don't have all infos on vilain.. but poker 101 and 102 are followed here..

Before seeing the result, can you really consider a reason to fold kings? It's sure a reading of vilain, telling he's a very loose player and he called all stacks under 11BB can change something but.. it's kings.. you're short stacked.. you can't just stay there and wait for aces (poker 101)!
Vilain played more maths and possibility of a double elimination here.. it was 15 BB.. he has 41BB.. a bit high for me, but he gambled and got lucky (poker 102)..

I folded kings preflop once since I play poker.. I'm SB with avg stack, UTG+1 shove and BU reshoved covering me by approx. 1K.. At my left, there's Miss Big Bad Freaking Stack, who just killed 2 players in 2 hands with weird live cards and she covers all 3 of us.. Have fun guys, I don't want to interfer in your business!

Nice play!

-TRP-
 
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That play is the "no scape play" you did well. I would do the same. ther is no way I would just call the All in and stay with such a short stack.
too bad the deck went the other way.
GL
 
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