Dealing with tilt, downswings and shovers

I've been grinding daily about 6 hours minimum everyday.
I've been doing well, but i have a few issues that i don't know how to approach due to lack of experience.

Shoves:

I am playing NL omaha h/l and i have encountered situations when people shove on small pots. I'm about 50% winner in the moments when i called and i see that people shove when they have the nuts in the high and the low covered too, thus winning 75% of the pot.

There are a few regs that shove recklessly with the craziest things (ex. KK810/him vs AAK2/me - they get a runner runner straight with the miracle 9 and the miracle 7).

There are a lot of pots that i don't bother with ex. 1.6$ shove in a 26 cents pot. I dunno if this is a "standard steal" at cash games or whatever.
Any way of combating these without calling down just to see what they have so i can face them later?

Tilt and downswings:

When i run good, i run great, but everyone knows when the deck starts getting cold, you get more and more and more and more beat - up. The 2 on the river to counterfeit your full pot win, or a crazy card that gives the high and the low( 2 outer).

Inadvertently, when this ocurrs, you get tilted and even though you keep calm and play clear.....shit happens making you even more tilt.

How should i approach cold decks and tilt? Any tricks for calming down or the "any reason to stop playing is great after you lose some" is the way to go?

I play a lot of O8 - PL/ NL/ FL, but in the main MTT & SNG's

Your first point - GOOD !!! That is what you want. If they suck out they suck out, as long as you get your chips in good.

Your second point - TIGHTEN UP !!! When u r running cold u need to understand that no matter what, you will be delt the cards that you will be delt - end of. No point in forcing it.
The reason you go on tilt is because you play hands that are not great, someone sucks out and then u r on a downward spiral

Ronaldadio said:

I play a lot of O8 - PL/ NL/ FL, but in the main MTT & SNG's

Your first point - GOOD !!! That is what you want. If they suck out they suck out, as long as you get your chips in good.

Your second point - TIGHTEN UP !!! When u r running cold u need to understand that no matter what, you will be delt the cards that you will be delt - end of. No point in forcing it.
The reason you go on tilt is because you play hands that are not great, someone sucks out and then u r on a downward spiral

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1. That hand annoyed the hell out of me.
AAK2

Flop comes AK6 rainbow. turn 9, river 7......
Haha, i think about that hand and am like, what can i say more?

2. You're right about the tightening up part. It's so damn true.
At the same time, you know how it's like, you get AK2x suited, you raise and you just win blinds....
I'm rarely even trying fancy plays or anything, i just focus on the " can i take this to the river" mentality and go with a lot of draws or protect my flopped things.

Could we talk somewhere about hands and strategies? Can i pm you?

The only way to defeat tilt (in my experience) is just to quit. You cannot defeat luck. It doesn't matter how far ahead you get it in, unless it's 100%, when you're running bad you will lose.

blueskies said:

The only way to defeat tilt (in my experience) is just to quit.

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This is akin to treating the symptom rather than the cause. It's better, albeit harder, to train yourself to tilt less easily and less severely.

Omaha H/L Never be the same as Holdem, that the variance is much larger, and is played more hands on some losse.

You should read several books omaha H / L Omaha not because they are two different modes with similar rules.

MaDaMan said:

Could we talk somewhere about hands and strategies? Can i pm you?

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Feel free my friend, or simply start up a thread and add me to it?

I don't play Omaha Hi/Lo at No Limit because there are people who will shove every flop and there is no way to know if you're ahead. And even a great hand can be counterfeited.

My advice is to stick to Limit or Pot Limit when playing High/Lo. Make them earn that pot.

Arjonius said:

This is akin to treating the symptom rather than the cause. It's better, albeit harder, to train yourself to tilt less easily and less severely.

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Yes, ideally you can raise your tilt threshold. However, there still is a threshold no matter how high you set it. I imagine the best players have far higher thresholds but they are still human after all.

Once you go on tilt, the only way is to just take a break.

Especially in online poker where you see so many hands, there are bound to be stretches where your sense of reality is questioned because how can KK/AA/QQ be cracked by garbage hands almost every time?

There are stretches where no matter what you do, you cannot win because villains don't fold and the cards fall against you, no matter how improbable.

Since competent players do not play like shit, you simply cannot be "evened" out in luck because you will be getting your money in there well ahead almost every time against these bad players so your chances of getting "lucky" are far and few between.

When the donk shoves with a gutshot against your made set and hit it right away on the turn, and you can get rescued with a paired board, will you hit it? Nope.

I've had gutshots hit on me 5 times in one day (and I single table and generally play no more than 200 per day). When that happens and you realize that your anus is red from abuse, there's no way to avoid tilt. At least for me. There's no coming back from that. So I quit and get them the next day.