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How often do you guys c-bet the flop?
I've usually c-bet most flops when I've raised preflop even if I don't hit it to keep them guessing but I'm not too sure whether this is a good idea :s
Could you give any examples of when you would and wouldn't c-bet?
 
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do not always agree. depends on the position you are, the amount of chips you have at that moment, and that moment this tournament .. there are many things to consider to make a C.bet ..
 
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I say great idea and you pick and choose when. You will be shocked at how many folds you will get. Can make you or break you. From experience it works and even just the minimum. Good luck.
 
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The whole c-bet landscape has changed a lot last few years. It's still valid but the big change has come in how people respond to it. You will no find it more difficult to collect a pot with a single c-bet as floating to the turn and beyond is happening with greater frequency. This means you can't afford to look at just the flop action, you have to make sure to think beyond as to what you are going to do on the turn also (as well as the river). So to just throw a c-bet out on the flop with no plan for later streets would be unwise.
And what is that plan? Well it totally depends on your opponent and the board texture. If that flop was super dry and your c-bet gets called you have to be very sharp on ranging your opponent as the odds of him making a move on you on a later street goes way up. He just assumes you missed and is going to pressure bet you to fold on the turn if a scare card doesn't pop up. He doesn't even care what he has, he's convinced you are screwed.
 
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I am ultra balance.
because of my hand range.
I continue bet about 45% board for value, and mix with some bluff to make my C bet range balanced.

the rest of the board would check raise or check call or check fold.

but in some certain case, I would ... put some my C-bet range to check call and check raise range as well. depends on player's data.

In this case, my opponent is unable to profitable play with my C bet.
 
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Position

For valuable C-bet position is a big big factor , also how many oponents are in the hand , and offcourse how many chips you have. And allways be care on check - raise ( only call if you have nutts , or you know oponent is bluff player ).
 
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If someone C-bets too much, (you can check with HUD stats) you can float the flop in position and if the C-bettor checks the turn, you can bet out and possibly steal the pot. So be prepared to fire some 2nd barrel C-bets on occasion.

Also I don't like C-betting with air too much when the board is wet. If someone is on a draw, they will be calling and if they notice you are C-betting a lot they will probably raise you to put you in a tough spot if they are aggressive. C-betting into a pot with 3+ players with air is a waste of money; unless you have a strong semi-bluffing hand and/or you know the other players fold to C-bets frequently.
 
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The whole c-bet landscape has changed a lot last few years. It's still valid but the big change has come in how people respond to it. You will no find it more difficult to collect a pot with a single c-bet as floating to the turn and beyond is happening with greater frequency. This means you can't afford to look at just the flop action, you have to make sure to think beyond as to what you are going to do on the turn also (as well as the river). So to just throw a c-bet out on the flop with no plan for later streets would be unwise.
And what is that plan? Well it totally depends on your opponent and the board texture. If that flop was super dry and your c-bet gets called you have to be very sharp on ranging your opponent as the odds of him making a move on you on a later street goes way up. He just assumes you missed and is going to pressure bet you to fold on the turn if a scare card doesn't pop up. He doesn't even care what he has, he's convinced you are screwed.
This is solid advice, thanks. How much does position affect this aswell?
 
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Cbet almost all boards, only check if flop dry with middle cards like 689 or 567...
 
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My cbet is around 65-70%.
Try to cbet more IP and be tighter with your cbets OOP.
Good luck!
 
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I was once told to C-bet about 30% of the time? I am not sure whether this is right or not? I tend to c-bet for different reasons at different times. There are so many factors I think my best advice would be c-bet when you feel comfortable with it and don't when you don't. Simple really.......gl :D:D:D
 
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When did raise preflop then bet on the flop is required. well then everything depends on the situation and the number of opponents.
 
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How about when you hit the flop huge? Flop a set or a straight. I like to still Cbet the same to hide it but it still gets folds, thoughts?
 
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its hard playing online poker, cbetting the flop if u havent hit, unless the torny is in the high levels to value the c bet. its harder to get a read on players and a lot off check raise players are now taking advantage
 
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This is solid advice, thanks. How much does position affect this aswell?

Position is huge on this because if you have the position to c-bet then that means your opponent has checked the flop - so it's now a situation where you can show some aggression to take it down. Be aware of the board texture as some are likely to flat call you in their chase of a flush, straight, or even just two over cards. Of course if they check-raise you are probably done.
 
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How about when you hit the flop huge? Flop a set or a straight. I like to still Cbet the same to hide it but it still gets folds, thoughts?

don't worry about it, it happens. concentrate on getting called by worse hands.
 
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don't worry about it, it happens. concentrate on getting called by worse hands.

whats your stats like your level? C betting what percentage do you maintain at your level or does that not matter?

say hero you bets 4 times bb villian bets 10 scenario you call

Do you go by instinct or continue try to chase off etc..?

And yes still reading your stuff when head is working and not sick lol.

If I am the aggressor I tend to bet flop enough to find out am in trouble or take it down.
 
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56 on flop, 48 on turn
 
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There is no rule for c-bet.
Depends on your cards, stage in the game, position on the table and if you want to bluff (hope you wont be catched)
 
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Draw flop c-bet cannot be bet.with joy in the paired flop set)
 
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How about when you hit the flop huge? Flop a set or a straight. I like to still Cbet the same to hide it but it still gets folds, thoughts?

Well they probably didn't have a hand worth calling the turn anyways. I read that somewhere. You lose value when you try to get fancy and slow play monsters. You'll have to make up for it on the turn & river and it's going to throw off a red flag. Also what if the turn gives off a scare card? A or K? Or a flush or straight hits the turn? You're not going to get paid off anyways if someone has a marginal hand.

I'd mainly slow down my betting against a maniac and let them hang themselves or someone that is really aggressive pre & post flop.
 
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Game postflop

Hello everyone!

Let me know in general what the post flop strategy seguis with mss in limits as NL5.
Before you start watching the videos I would like to get an overall picture.
Utilizais the c-bet on average the same as with bss?
 
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In general c-betting in better when you have position on your opponents, and better when their is 2 or fewer of them. Out of position
; c-betting for value is good vs. callers, including hands like 2nd pair. Vs people likely to fold often (set mining nits $ fit or fold players for example) you can widen your c-bet range to include hands that missed the flop. When you play vs. aggressive opponents consider check raising good hands for value, check calling marginal hands (1 street only, vs small bet; hoping to show down or improve), and check folding missed hands. In all cases board texture, the number & type of opponents and your position should be considered before you act.
 
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There are too many variables to consider.
Type of game, structure, blinds, chip stacks, opponent types ...
You just have to judge what is appropriate each time.
 
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i c bet a lot early in tournaments when am the aggressor and an ace hits. I bet enough to find out how screwed I am lol. Sometimes take it down (sometimes get a flat call figure weak ace usually in that case) big decision there can you get the person off the pot or not with the weak ace? Sometimes they come back on me I know they have two pair or big ace and im dust take a lot of time debate toss hand.

With me being tournament player c betting is not easy the flop is everything in most cases and is the guy a chaser etc.. so history notes etc.. all matter. I am just talking the c bet bluff or semi bluff not that you hit a set top pair two pair etc..

I build patterns and bet 2-3 same as aa and show both at times lol.
depending on poker variance how am hitting luck table image who am playing styles etc..

C bet is one thing I know need to work on more and master though.

Am sure am not as aggressive as should be but mix up things a ton in games so as said probably needs thought research and work:)

Is more often then not to me the right move just I dont do it often enough I think. Is not how I play most days am more trapper let people kill selves so if they are c bettors I will wait and patiently trap them and kill them and me coming back at them will get them off games and if they call I could be bluffing yet it wont be often so if they do catch me? Reversiing things? They are very lucky most times will be taking them down.

People get curious if you keep coming over top doing same bet on river etc.. sooner or later they begin to call usually is what I find.

Anyway that is the reverse of c betting turning it around on those that use it to much. Someone said can check stats but honestly just watch table is usually easy to see on most players
 
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