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OK so this question is so basic that I felt that it belonged in this section of the forum, but please feel free to move it if you disagree.

I've been trying to keep my c-bets consistent in terms of how many BB are bet but then I suddenly wondered whether I should actually be making it a percentage of the pot size?

So instead of always betting 2.5 BB or 3 BB perhaps I should always be betting a third of the pot?

Assuming that people still c-bet these days, obviously...
 
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You should never c-bet 2.5 bb or 3bb or according to blinds. Because pot size on the flop will not be the same everytime. Depending on the number of callers it will vary. So if you have multiple callers then if you bet 3bb then it will be very small bet sizing. Hence they should always be a certain percentage of the pot size. You can have different c-bet sizing for tournaments and cash games. Keeping a consistent c-bet size is good practice. :icon_joke
 
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Postflop, should base your bets on pot size.

Also, vary your cbet everytime.
 
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I'm doing a continued bet of 40-70% of the pot, depending on the flop and opponents
 
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varying the size of your cbet can still be used at 6nl or lower. 10NL+ id keep it a similar size (60% bluff, 75% value)
 
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It's your business. Everyone chooses for himself an optimal strategy.
 
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It's your business. Everyone chooses for himself an optimal strategy.

Don't agree with that, wouldn't be much point having a forum if that were true.

Thanks to all that posted.
 
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Cash games or mtt?

Either way, cbet a % of the pot rather than a set amount of bb

Also, vary your cbet everytime.

This is unnecessary, there are reasons to cbet bigger or smaller but you dont need to cbet a different amount every time.
 
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C-betting similar amounts for bluffs as with value will make it difficult for opponents to know which you are doing......scorp
 
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I usually go for 40%-60% of the pot, depending who I am up against as well as my position at the table.
 
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C-betting similar amounts for bluffs as with value will make it difficult for opponents to know which you are doing......scorp

True... but...

I'd argue that if you are playing against opponents who think like that then you should be finding a more fishy table.

Play as simple, straightforward and as exploitable as possible aiming to table select and find the agro-whales.
It isn't "fancy" or "GTO"... but it makes the most money!
 
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C-bet it seems to be a bluff.
But sometimes if you c-bet you should did a large raise pre-flop,but it have to be 1/3 of your opponents stack.
 
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a percentage of the pot, but first consider number of opponents (and quality) in the pot and the texture of the flop

sometimes better check, sometimes better shove,

if you hold pocket queens against 2 or 3 and flop is AK3, you better check,

if you hold 8c7c and flop comes AcTc2c you could overbet in a multiway

if you hold AA and flop goes AA3, what would you do?
 
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a percentage of the pot, but first consider number of opponents (and quality) in the pot and the texture of the flop

sometimes better check, sometimes better shove,

if you hold pocket queens against 2 or 3 and flop is AK3, you better check,

if you hold 8c7c and flop comes AcTc2c you could overbet in a multiway

if you hold AA and flop goes AA3, what would you do?

I thought C Bet refer to a case when u are aggresor preflop, then u bet when u miss the flop?
 
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I typically cbet after an aggressive preflop bet in mid-late action. It make it seem like you're bluffing like you missed the flop when in reality people might double what you bet thinking that you're bluffing. Then when you call is what puts them in the hot seat.. Hope this helps! :)
 
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It depends on the purpose of the c-bet. If It's a bluff cbet or a semi-bluff I tend to make it between a 1/3 and 1/2 pot. If it's a value bet I bet around 2/3 pot or even pot size if i think i can get away with it.
 
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I thought C Bet refer to a case when u are aggresor preflop, then u bet when u miss the flop?

you are right sir,

however cbet only when miss the flop is not the best approach, because everybody will checkraises you,

by the other hand in a flop where you hit the nuts you dont have to cbet always, you can let them see a free card, slowroll and try to trap your opponents because you dont want them to fold, but again think what your opponents are thinking and try to outsmart them most of the time!

every situation, every hand, every opponent, every flop is a new thinking, how can you proctect your chips and how can you take the chips from your opponents (i only play mtts that´s the reason of thinking in term of chips)
 
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This thread feels as if it has suddenly become a lot more useful, thanks guys :)

Cash games or mtt?

I'm not ready to move onto cash games yet, I'm still in the microstakes MTT and 9-man $1 SNG stage.

C-bet it seems to be a bluff. But sometimes if you c-bet you should did a large raise pre-flop, but it have to be 1/3 of your opponents stack.

Nobody else has really mentioned opponent stack size. I can see why it would be relevant and I do take it into account, especially if they are relatively short-stacked.

It depends on the purpose of the c-bet. If It's a bluff cbet or a semi-bluff I tend to make it between a 1/3 and 1/2 pot. If it's a value bet I bet around 2/3 pot or even pot size if i think i can get away with it.

I can probably get away with this at microstakes, but I'm concerned that at higher levels it might well be picked up on fairly rapidly and become a tell, particularly for the regulars. I need to try to avoid picking up bad habits from microstakes. Maybe I should use this sizing strategy against known fish but stick to roughly the same percentage each time for the others - there are a lot of fish in microstakes, so I should have plenty of opportunities to experiment.

Thanks again :)
 
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I usually go for 40%-60% of the pot, depending who I am up against as well as my position at the table.

I have found that at the local cash game, I am usually betting about 2x my original bet if I get 1 or 2 callers, making a 1/3-1/2 size pot bet not counting the blinnds, which I assume is rake when I stack my opponent ($1-$2 NL). I do however think this is a part of my game that I could def improve, because the good players (few of them) are getting reads on me. However because I used to drink and play once upon a time, I somehow have never shedded my Loose Aggressive donkey image I used to have, so im getting paid off no matter what I bet. The fishing here is good, but whenever I move to a more serious game I try to keep things consistent, like at the casino.
 
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I think it is accepted as a better strategy to structure your post flop bets according to pot size and not get caught using the same percentages for the same situations
 
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Some players overdo it and C-Bet almost every pot. Such blind aggression is unnecessary even against weak opponents – they won’t notice its predictability, but many of them will refuse to fold marginal hands and will call you down and beat you at the river. Good players will pick up on your over cbetting tendencies and capitalize, so in order to be profitable you need to carefully picking the C-Betting opportunities.
What ever you decide do not cbet calling stations.When you do cbet you want your opponent to fold.The same therefore applies to opponents who 3bet a lot.
 
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