This is a discussion on confusion within the online poker forums, in the Learning Poker section; As a begginer sometimes I get confused when too much players call a raise, and for me is very hard to read the table,one of
As a begginer sometimes I get confused when too much players call a raise, and for me is very hard to read the table,one of these days I was playing MTT 50ç 45 players and I had JJ jacks blind was 100|200 I raise to 500 and 4 players called, and for my surprise there was a J on the flop J Q T,,it´s a bad flop for because there are chances of straight and didn´t know if a C bet was a good choice, so I made C bet and the turn comes with a 9 so, JQT9 very dangerous for this hand I had 3 jacks but the straight was very clear and I give up my hand.
November 2nd, 2017, 5:42 PM
Online Poker at: BCP
Depending on how the betting on the turn played out, you probably made a good fold.
Better awareness at the poker table comes in time with practice. But I don't think you did anything wrong here.
November 2nd, 2017, 7:41 PM
Poker at: Pokerstars
Good game. Fold is the hardest thing for a beginner.
You think in the right direction.
November 2nd, 2017, 7:46 PM
Online Poker at: Poker Stars
You could of hung in to see if the strait was going to be there , and if it was you would of split the pot or be a part of it , and you could of had another
JQT9 come out for 4 of a kind or a FH - to which you would of also had a good hand .... but if you gave up your hand because someone went all in - then yes , it was a good fold. ( that is the gamble we make with poker )
November 2nd, 2017, 7:47 PM
Poker at: PokerStars
re: Poker & confusion
You made the right move on the pos - flop.
But pre-flop I think you should raise 600 our more, probably 4 would not give you call
but in the end you make a good fold
November 2nd, 2017, 9:37 PM
Online Poker at: ACR
If 4 people called you from the big blind that must mean they had already limped. With 4 limpers 2.5 bb raise is pretty pointless. If you had 20 blinds or less i would probably just go all in preflop. And im definetely shoving the flop.
November 3rd, 2017, 4:20 PM
Poker at: ACR
I think you made the correct move as well. At this point you really have nothing more than a bluff catcher and would think most people (there are some crazies out there) would not bluff with that board and that many people in the pot.
November 3rd, 2017, 4:36 PM
Originally Posted by elton015
I was playing MTT 50ç 45 players and I had JJ jacks blind was 100|200 I raise to 500 and 4 players called
If by "blind" you mean your position was either SB or BB and 4 players already limped then your raise should've been about 6-7 big blinds (i.e. 1200-1400) at least: 2-3 bb is a standard raise + 1 bb for each limper. At least it's what recommended in "Harrington on Modern Tournament Poker".
You didn't adjust your raise on account of limpers. Given the size of the pot before your raise was 1100 (4 limpers + bb/sb, i assume there was no antes yet) your raise to 500 meant that the pot has become 1400-1500 (don't know if you were BB or SB). Each limper had to invest 300 chips to call your raise with the odds 1:5, 1:6, 1:7, 1:8 for each subsequent limper - any player would call with such good odds (and considering they already limped likely they had something).
November 3rd, 2017, 5:15 PM
it is not easy fold a three of a kind, more with a board that I think I fold as well. once I read in an article on the Internet, just don't remember where, saying the following: "you will only become a player better when get fold large hands". and that's not easy.
November 3rd, 2017, 5:51 PM
Online Poker at: 888
re: Poker & confusion
When 4 player called, did the river show up?
Was it a good fold?
November 3rd, 2017, 6:28 PM
That's usually how I lose with big pairs. With two or more callers to a relatively small per-flop raise (2.5X) you're almost guaranteed to be beat with a flop like that one. Other than being prepared to throw away your killer set, the only other strategy that might work better is to make a very large pre-flop raise. Everyone will know that you're playing a big pair, so 'smart' players are less likely to make such a big call with any two rainbow cards. AK will usually make the call though, so you're pretty much only concerned about one flop, i.e., the one you got TJQ.
November 3rd, 2017, 6:39 PM
Online Poker at: Sky Bet
Depending on the pot odds a call may have been ok as (quick maths) you had about a 25% chance of hitting a full house or better which would have been well disguised against a straight. As a new player though I agree with the comments above that a fold was the best course of action for you.
November 3rd, 2017, 7:40 PM
Poker at: ARC
I would try to check it down. I'm not sure about laying down trips until I see the river. I'm going to go broke with trips. Your outs are good if you can by cheaply
November 3rd, 2017, 11:36 PM
Online Poker at: SB
Keep playing, it will get easier....
November 4th, 2017, 1:47 AM
re: Poker & confusion
Each day you play it becomes easier to read the villains and make them fold