ChuckTs
Legend
Silver Level
video was recorded on my PC through teamviewer so I didn't think the quality would be good enough after being bamboozled that way, and then through more compression.
I'll upload it tonight and post tomorrow but I can't guarantee as good quality.
I'll upload it tonight and post tomorrow but I can't guarantee as good quality.
ChuckTs
Legend
Silver Level
I ****ed up and can't do blip.tv, sorry. I tried uploading a straight .mov file forgetting you have to convert it to flash properly, and deleted the camstasia files in the process thinking it would all be ok.
So only the megaupload is available, plus this shitty quality blip.tv file: http://blip.tv/file/1938328/
So only the megaupload is available, plus this shitty quality blip.tv file: http://blip.tv/file/1938328/
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bigjoker66
Visionary
Silver Level
You know you can direct convert between .mov and flash?
As long as you have the codec's, A good set is k-lite:
http://www.free-codecs.com/k_lite_Codec_Pack_download.htm
Then just drop the .mov into mediacoder:
http://www.mediacoderhq.com
Under the video tab I used -
mode: quality-based (10)
Format: H.264
Container: Flash Video
It compressed it 2.5:1 to 109MB for me, with very little loss of quality.
I watched the video and think I learned some stuff. I'm still playing around in micro stakes (10nl) so don't feel I have much to add.
Thanks for posting. I think I will watch it again to reinforce what was said, and maybe pick up some more.
It would have been nice if ChuckT could have finished some of the tangents more, kinda hard too though when hands need attention.
As long as you have the codec's, A good set is k-lite:
http://www.free-codecs.com/k_lite_Codec_Pack_download.htm
Then just drop the .mov into mediacoder:
http://www.mediacoderhq.com
Under the video tab I used -
mode: quality-based (10)
Format: H.264
Container: Flash Video
It compressed it 2.5:1 to 109MB for me, with very little loss of quality.
I watched the video and think I learned some stuff. I'm still playing around in micro stakes (10nl) so don't feel I have much to add.
Thanks for posting. I think I will watch it again to reinforce what was said, and maybe pick up some more.
It would have been nice if ChuckT could have finished some of the tangents more, kinda hard too though when hands need attention.
NineLions
Advanced beginner
Silver Level
Yeah, I started watching it at work, in between working so I missed some.
But I like the hand about 2/3 of the way in, where Chuck says about a short stack "get him in" and Icemonkey bets the guy's stack and Chuck says, no, I meant bet smaller to get him in. That's the kind of thing I would have done.
Taking the expert's advice too literally.
But I like the hand about 2/3 of the way in, where Chuck says about a short stack "get him in" and Icemonkey bets the guy's stack and Chuck says, no, I meant bet smaller to get him in. That's the kind of thing I would have done.
Taking the expert's advice too literally.
zachvac
Legend
Silver Level
ok I agree with Chuck, 69s on the button with those guys definitely open.
Another hand a few limpers and you complete A6o in the SB. I'd rather fold or squeeze here.
QT987 3-spade board you have A6 and fold to a 1/4 pot bet. This could so easily be top pair/anything here that's not a J or flush and usually a flush bets closer to pot anyway. I don't understand the fold.
KJ9 2-toned flop you have AQ and 3-bet a minraise he donks for like 1/3 pot I would raise that all day. If he donked for closer to pot I'd be more inclined to think he was betting to protect but that bet smacks of either just a fish wanting to show down 9x/Jx/low PP cheap or draw cheaply and I think he folds to a raise a ton of the time. Plus we don't exactly have air, we have a gutter as well as an over (and like Chuck said our Q could even be good).
33 in the SB, shortstack UTG limps and 60 BB stack in BB, I really don't like completing here.
Positional awareness - you raise KJo UTG but fold 68s from the CO unopened and there was another one where on the button with like T8o you were going to fold and called it a marginal open when Chuck told you to raise.
Chuck calls FR more mechanical. Play some 2/4 (that's the 6max stakes you're playing now right?) FR sometime. You'll likely be surprised at the amount of people who 3-bet in the 7-9% range and some hands that regs will 5-bet bluff shove.
Near the end, checked down on KQJ flop K turn A river you have A5 shortstack checks river that has to be a bet. He never has you beat ever and he has enough Qx/Jx/underpairs that may call a smallish bet. Of course he has 45 and you can laugh about it but not betting there is missing a ton of value.
One other thing I noticed was bet sizing. Seems postflop overall bets are just way too big. You need to think about what hands will do what on various boards and tailor your bet sizing towards that. On dry boards when they can only continue with hands like sets or air there's really no point to betting big while on other drawy boards you want to bet bigger to charge draws and such. Obviously that's just a simplification but try to think more about what you want the bet to accomplish instead of just betting w/e your script tells you.
Good video, thanks for making.
Another hand a few limpers and you complete A6o in the SB. I'd rather fold or squeeze here.
QT987 3-spade board you have A6 and fold to a 1/4 pot bet. This could so easily be top pair/anything here that's not a J or flush and usually a flush bets closer to pot anyway. I don't understand the fold.
KJ9 2-toned flop you have AQ and 3-bet a minraise he donks for like 1/3 pot I would raise that all day. If he donked for closer to pot I'd be more inclined to think he was betting to protect but that bet smacks of either just a fish wanting to show down 9x/Jx/low PP cheap or draw cheaply and I think he folds to a raise a ton of the time. Plus we don't exactly have air, we have a gutter as well as an over (and like Chuck said our Q could even be good).
33 in the SB, shortstack UTG limps and 60 BB stack in BB, I really don't like completing here.
Positional awareness - you raise KJo UTG but fold 68s from the CO unopened and there was another one where on the button with like T8o you were going to fold and called it a marginal open when Chuck told you to raise.
Chuck calls FR more mechanical. Play some 2/4 (that's the 6max stakes you're playing now right?) FR sometime. You'll likely be surprised at the amount of people who 3-bet in the 7-9% range and some hands that regs will 5-bet bluff shove.
Near the end, checked down on KQJ flop K turn A river you have A5 shortstack checks river that has to be a bet. He never has you beat ever and he has enough Qx/Jx/underpairs that may call a smallish bet. Of course he has 45 and you can laugh about it but not betting there is missing a ton of value.
One other thing I noticed was bet sizing. Seems postflop overall bets are just way too big. You need to think about what hands will do what on various boards and tailor your bet sizing towards that. On dry boards when they can only continue with hands like sets or air there's really no point to betting big while on other drawy boards you want to bet bigger to charge draws and such. Obviously that's just a simplification but try to think more about what you want the bet to accomplish instead of just betting w/e your script tells you.
Good video, thanks for making
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ChuckTs
Legend
Silver Level
Had a complete brain fart and thought I needed to render it in camtasia into flash format. I've actually already downloaded all the stuff you linked to from another post of yours. Thanks for that btw, blip.tv is awesome.
I think next time we'll knock it down to 2 tables, that's usually best. Maybe if we prerecord 4 tables and can pause it whenever we want it'll be ok, but live it's just too much as there are too many hands popping up here and there.
I'm going to pass on blip.tv'ing this video as everyone's already kind of watched and commented on it but will do the next one. Sorry about the screwup guys!
spore
Rock Star
Silver Level
Very nice.. I've just kinda skimmed it at work, will watch the whole thing later. I'm going to start back in on ring games at 10NL 6-max soon. I'm sure most of this does not apply to 10NL but it still helps me tremendously to see how you guys use stats against your opponents.
Nice job!
Nice job!
ChuckTs
Legend
Silver Level
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I just wrote a huge long response to your post Zach, got logged out and lost it.
Most of the stuff I just agreed with, except a slight disagreement about the AQ hand. I just think he'll have too many GS+pair hands that won't fold to a single raise. Also the threat of overs on a J62 flop is much more powerful for a raise than on a KJ9 flop, so he probably folds less often. But I think it's close.
Obviously if you look at higher stakes you get higher levels of aggression, but in general 100nl FR is going to be a game you can play very mechanically and profit in.
My point is less that FR is more mechanical or robotic than 6m, but that it's easier to play mechanically vs 6m, and as such provides a bad 'autopilot trap' for a lot of players, myself included back when I used to play FR.
All I meant by the comment was that I want to warn people of falling into that trap because it can completely halt your progress as a player. You simply progress much slower (if at all) as a player who sits there on 18-30 tables of FR, playing on autopilot, never experimenting and not noticing all the subtle things that add fractions of a bb to your winrate vs someone who plays 4-6 tables of 6m and being forced into more marginal situations more often.
I just wrote a huge long response to your post Zach, got logged out and lost it.
Most of the stuff I just agreed with, except a slight disagreement about the AQ hand. I just think he'll have too many GS+pair hands that won't fold to a single raise. Also the threat of overs on a J62 flop is much more powerful for a raise than on a KJ9 flop, so he probably folds less often. But I think it's close.
Obviously if you look at higher stakes you get higher levels of aggression, but in general 100nl FR is going to be a game you can play very mechanically and profit in.
My point is less that FR is more mechanical or robotic than 6m, but that it's easier to play mechanically vs 6m, and as such provides a bad 'autopilot trap' for a lot of players, myself included back when I used to play FR.
All I meant by the comment was that I want to warn people of falling into that trap because it can completely halt your progress as a player. You simply progress much slower (if at all) as a player who sits there on 18-30 tables of FR, playing on autopilot, never experimenting and not noticing all the subtle things that add fractions of a bb to your winrate vs someone who plays 4-6 tables of 6m and being forced into more marginal situations more often.
ABorges
Rock Star
Silver Level
Okay, I just watched it, nice video! Just 2 questions tho:
1. Zach said "33 in the SB, shortstack UTG limps and 60 BB stack in BB, I really don't like completing here."
So what should we do? Raise? I don't remember how short UTG was, but I really don't think folding > calling, so raising should be what you're suggesting. And if it is, what makes you think raising > calling?
2. There was this one hand where CO limped with 40$ something behind and we raised from the SB with JJ. Flop came KT6 with 2 spades, the pot is 10$, he has ~37$ left. Chuck then said he would just bet and get it in. I don't really think he's short enough to make that profitable, when he's willing to go all in he's gonna have you crushed nearly every time. Yes I'm aware the board is draw heavy, but do you really think limpers are more likely to semi bluff their draws than to call with them? I think bet/fold would be your standard line here, was really surprised with what you said. I'd probably get it in if he had less then 25$ish, but 37 seems way too much to me. Maybe I got what you meant wrong, care to explain?
Other than that, pretty standard session. Shame there were no ultra difficult hands to play.
1. Zach said "33 in the SB, shortstack UTG limps and 60 BB stack in BB, I really don't like completing here."
So what should we do? Raise? I don't remember how short UTG was, but I really don't think folding > calling, so raising should be what you're suggesting. And if it is, what makes you think raising > calling?
2. There was this one hand where CO limped with 40$ something behind and we raised from the SB with JJ. Flop came KT6 with 2 spades, the pot is 10$, he has ~37$ left. Chuck then said he would just bet and get it in. I don't really think he's short enough to make that profitable, when he's willing to go all in he's gonna have you crushed nearly every time. Yes I'm aware the board is draw heavy, but do you really think limpers are more likely to semi bluff their draws than to call with them? I think bet/fold would be your standard line here, was really surprised with what you said. I'd probably get it in if he had less then 25$ish, but 37 seems way too much to me. Maybe I got what you meant wrong, care to explain?
Other than that, pretty standard session. Shame there were no ultra difficult hands to play.
zachvac
Legend
Silver Level
Honestly if I had to fold or complete I'd probably fold here. Calling here just sucks as we'll be oop to 2 people (if the BB doesn't raise us) with a hand that whiffs most flops and we can't extract a ton when we do hit. I just raise though, the raise plus cbet (obviously board dependent) will take it down enough to be profitable imo.