ChuckTs/FPaulsson play again

ChuckTs

ChuckTs

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 2, 2005
Total posts
13,642
Chips
0
Second sweat, a little more fun this time iyam.

[broken link~tb]

Still somehow a kagillion mb big :mad: We've been using camstudio and I think next time we can switch to camtasia, in which case I guarantee the file will be smaller.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
KingCurtis

KingCurtis

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 24, 2007
Total posts
9,946
Awards
1
Chips
1
will check it out, i must have missed the first one, so ill find that one too...always a fan of your vids :)
 
spore

spore

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
May 4, 2006
Total posts
491
Chips
0
First one was great. Can't wait to get home to watch this one!
 
NineLions

NineLions

Advanced beginner
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 20, 2006
Total posts
4,979
Chips
0
Heh, the sound slowly seems to get further and further ahead of the video. Which actually helps at first, giving me more time to digest what you're saying before the cards come. But towards the end you're discussing hands that haven't been dealt yet. :) Or, so it shows on my computer.


Teach us all to run at 147.20 bbs/100 ....
 
ChuckTs

ChuckTs

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 2, 2005
Total posts
13,642
Chips
0
yea that was probably a problem with the editing. I had a little problem syncing the audio properly.
 
spore

spore

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
May 4, 2006
Total posts
491
Chips
0
I wish I could flop sets and bust Aces like you guys lmao. Ditto on the audio.. i got a bit confused towards the end, but there was definitely some good discussion and a lot of it was over my head (i gotta get with the times). But, again very informative and very helpful :) Oh, and I still liked the fold against the short-stack shove FWIW.. i would imagine if calling there would have been +EV it wouldn't have been by much.
 
NineLions

NineLions

Advanced beginner
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 20, 2006
Total posts
4,979
Chips
0
Fredrik, do you have any problems with Chuck's Canadian accent?

And do you ever do them in reverse, with Chuck playing?
 
ChuckTs

ChuckTs

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 2, 2005
Total posts
13,642
Chips
0
curious what things Fredrik thinks I pronounce differently :)

We'll do another video with me playing soon, just have one bump in the road to get past.
 
F Paulsson

F Paulsson

euro love
Silver Level
Joined
Aug 24, 2005
Total posts
5,799
Awards
1
Chips
1
Well, there's he DOES say "aboat" instead of "about" but other than that, I don't notice it much.

Time for me to watch this myself!
 
Melkor

Melkor

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Apr 20, 2007
Total posts
305
Chips
0
Just want to say for a guy trying to do more and more cash games these vids are really interesting and helpful so thanks for taking the time to do them.
 
NineLions

NineLions

Advanced beginner
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 20, 2006
Total posts
4,979
Chips
0
I guess having an American born wife makes Canadian easier to understand than Irish. :)


Fredrik, a couple questions aboat bet sizing:

1) You say that you raise 4X UTG and 3 elsewhere, which is the opposite of Phil Gordon who says he raises 2.5 early, 3 mid, and 3.5 late. He plays different players, and mostly tournaments, but his rationale is that early position raises get more respect for a big hand so he doesn't need to raise as much, but needs to raise more in late to get respect. Are you implying that at 6 max at your level people don't respect early position as much and you need to get through more players so you raise more?

2) Postflop you seem to size your bets according to your strength and desire for your opponent to call, which is opposed to the view of making your sizes the same so that opponent's don't get a read on the relative strength of your hand. One example in this vid is where you say you make the bet larger because it's your only shot and after that you're planning to shut down. But, given that most players probably multitable and rely on HUDs, HUDs which tell frequencies but not sizes, do you think that variation in bet sizing can be slipped past HUD/multitable players? Is that part of the rationale behind doing so?
 
zachvac

zachvac

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 14, 2007
Total posts
7,832
Chips
0
2) Postflop you seem to size your bets according to your strength and desire for your opponent to call, which is opposed to the view of making your sizes the same so that opponent's don't get a read on the relative strength of your hand. One example in this vid is where you say you make the bet larger because it's your only shot and after that you're planning to shut down. But, given that most players probably multitable and rely on HUDs, HUDs which tell frequencies but not sizes, do you think that variation in bet sizing can be slipped past HUD/multitable players? Is that part of the rationale behind doing so?

He should probably answer it but I've heard the justification that basically since position is more important the more money is left behind that we raise bigger from EP to negate that advantage. On top of that we have on average worse hands from late position so we want a cheaper price on bluffs.
 
ChuckTs

ChuckTs

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 2, 2005
Total posts
13,642
Chips
0
The issue of bet sizing in certain positions is debated constantly - there are legit points for both sides.
 
NineLions

NineLions

Advanced beginner
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 20, 2006
Total posts
4,979
Chips
0
He should probably answer it but I've heard the justification that basically since position is more important the more money is left behind that we raise bigger from EP to negate that advantage. On top of that we have on average worse hands from late position so we want a cheaper price on bluffs.

I'm trying to follow this, but I think you're referring to question 1) rather than 2)?
 
F Paulsson

F Paulsson

euro love
Silver Level
Joined
Aug 24, 2005
Total posts
5,799
Awards
1
Chips
1
He should probably answer it but I've heard the justification that basically since position is more important the more money is left behind that we raise bigger from EP to negate that advantage. On top of that we have on average worse hands from late position so we want a cheaper price on bluffs.
Right, that's a big part of it. The other argument for it is that my range UTG is much stronger than my range on the button so on average I don't mind my pots being bigger when I raise UTG.

NineLions said:
2) Postflop you seem to size your bets according to your strength and desire for your opponent to call, which is opposed to the view of making your sizes the same so that opponent's don't get a read on the relative strength of your hand. One example in this vid is where you say you make the bet larger because it's your only shot and after that you're planning to shut down. But, given that most players probably multitable and rely on HUDs, HUDs which tell frequencies but not sizes, do you think that variation in bet sizing can be slipped past HUD/multitable players? Is that part of the rationale behind doing so?

That's exactly it. I actually start to say that somewhere in the video but get interrupted by some hand that pops up and then never remembered to finish the train of thought. Very few regs at these stakes - borderline none of them - are ambitious enough to sit down and analyze other regs' bet sizing away from the tables. Especially not with Party allowing me to change my screen name every 30 days. So they know that I c-bet 75%, but I doubt many of them have found a pattern to my sizing that they can trust.

Now, I can bluff small on the flop, too. Making the c-bet bigger is just something I do versus people who love to float and/or on boards where I feel that they're hit-or-miss. On drawy boards, I prefer not to bluff because the decision whether to fire again on the turn or not will be so difficult. It's exploitable if you know I'm doing it, but the risk of being exploited by a very small number of players (who, honestly, I try not to have on my left anyway) is easily outweighed by the profit of getting to play exploitably.

And yes, Chuck's accent is no problem whatsoever. Sometimes I think Tenbob is just making words up when he talks to me. I think it took him four tries to get me to understand that he was saying "Grumbledook" which, to be fair, is not exactly a name or a word I was expecting him to say.
 
dsvw56

dsvw56

I'm a Taurus
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 7, 2008
Total posts
1,716
Chips
0
And yes, Chuck's accent is no problem whatsoever. Sometimes I think Tenbob is just making words up when he talks to me. I think it took him four tries to get me to understand that he was saying "Grumbledook" which, to be fair, is not exactly a name or a word I was expecting him to say.

It's probably just because it's 3:30 am and I've gotten like a grand total of 12 hours of sleep in the last week, but that is the funniest paragraph I've ever read. WTF is a "Grumbledook"?
 
F Paulsson

F Paulsson

euro love
Silver Level
Joined
Aug 24, 2005
Total posts
5,799
Awards
1
Chips
1
It's probably just because it's 3:30 am and I've gotten like a grand total of 12 hours of sleep in the last week, but that is the funniest paragraph I've ever read. WTF is a "Grumbledook"?
It's a guy who used to post here a few years ago, but hasn't been around for a long time. That added to the confusion as I wasn't expecting his online nickname to come up in the conversation, and "grumbledook" sounds very odd when pronounced with a thick Irish accent. :)
 
Top