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do anyone faced problem grabing chips from opponents in very first hour of the tournament.
 
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Nope, just have to be extremely tight the first couple of levels......
You will see others shoving 50bb+ stacks early and you'll be temped,
but do not do it!!
 
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^What he said. I only play the freerolls but if you lay low then act, hopefully you'll have cards by then AND people will respect your raises, having not acted for a while. It's a fine line, experience is the only remedy I figure.
 
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I have read some comments on different topics about freerolls and microstake mtt where people tend to shove with any face cards when more then two people are involved in order to gain massive chip stack in early phase. This tactics is understandable specially if the rebuy period is involved or in giant freerolls like ftp 150$ which you can play 12 times in a day and if you get eliminated dont bother there is another one in less then 2 hours. But imo good old tight aggressive play with premium hands is much better choice because sooner or later you'll get one of those.. so be patient...
 
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what drazafft said with tight agressive play has worked for me granted they have only been in the freerolls for the weekend tourney tickets on fulltilt but ive had a great success in finishing in the top 250 for tickets on there
also in other freerolls i carnt remember who wrote it but someone mentioned a point of building a chip stack while on the bubble of tournaments in the past i was one of those people that use to just fold till the cash then start to build up again after hitting the cash i took some advice in the building part and ive been finishing deeper in the tourneys because of it
 
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Play tight in the beginning! There is so much time before a starting stack is in danger of being short stacked (less than 20 big blinds or so). If there are ridiculously aggressive players at your table, let them steal the level 1 and level 2 blinds, and then stack them when you get JJ+
 
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Don't put your whole stack in the middle early on unless you are sure that you're ahead pre-flop, such as holding AA. It's also not worth the risk trying to steal blinds with marginal hands because the blinds are so low and people call with anything. There will constantly be people who grab a huge lead in the first hour playing like maniacs with VPIP's of 70+, but these types usually flame out soon. I remember reading recently that the chip leader at the end of day 1 of the wsop Main Event has never made it to the final table.

There are many more possible combination of crap hands than premium ones, so don't be surprised if you might have to wait a while to get anything even remotely playable.
 
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Don't put your whole stack in the middle early on unless you are sure that you're ahead pre-flop, such as holding AA. It's also not worth the risk trying to steal blinds with marginal hands because the blinds are so low and people call with anything. There will constantly be people who grab a huge lead in the first hour playing like maniacs with VPIP's of 70+, but these types usually flame out soon. I remember reading recently that the chip leader at the end of day 1 of the WSOP Main Event has never made it to the final table.

There are many more possible combination of crap hands than premium ones, so don't be surprised if you might have to wait a while to get anything even remotely playable.

I feel like something very important should be said... You should always think about it twice before you put your whole stack in the middle (early or not!) I made the mistake playing a $30 Buy in today live.

An early position player made an all-in shove that folded to me with AJo...

I thought what a great chance to add to my stack let me call his all in move here because he could be shoving such a wide range not wanting the blinds to rob him of his stack. I knew it was heads up so I slid everything in and lo and behold the dreaded fool had pocket Aces. The truth is, I regret the call because I was not even willing to flip at that point... baad bad decision, even with AJ

Just because a player looks like he may be weak doesn't mean that he is. Just because you expect that early position player to shove, doesn't mean you should call! There are a lot of factors to consider, even in the middle-late stages when you WANT to take chances, WANT to collect a lot of chips. I lost almost half my stack doubling up that gonad and despite my better efforts I got blinded out of the tourney.
 
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I feel like something very important should be said... You should always think about it twice before you put your whole stack in the middle (early or not!) I made the mistake playing a $30 Buy in today live.

An early position player made an all-in shove that folded to me with AJo...

I thought what a great chance to add to my stack let me call his all in move here because he could be shoving such a wide range not wanting the blinds to rob him of his stack. I knew it was heads up so I slid everything in and lo and behold the dreaded fool had pocket Aces. The truth is, I regret the call because I was not even willing to flip at that point... baad bad decision, even with AJ

Just because a player looks like he may be weak doesn't mean that he is. Just because you expect that early position player to shove, doesn't mean you should call! There are a lot of factors to consider, even in the middle-late stages when you WANT to take chances, WANT to collect a lot of chips. I lost almost half my stack doubling up that gonad and despite my better efforts I got blinded out of the tourney.

Very good points, I've run into this situation a lot where somebody is raising almost every hand in a freeroll, the whole table knows he's playing junk most of the time, so I get some above-average hand and decide to take a chance and re-raise him all in. Of course, the one time I decide to play back at him is the time he has AA or KK and there goes my stack.

Even though it's an overplay and we're given advice not to do it, people still do open-shove AA and KK and sometimes they get paid off handsomely.
 
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Even though it's an overplay and we're given advice not to do it, people still do open-shove AA and KK and sometimes they get paid off handsomely.

Lol, that's me! It's worked so many times with KK that I just keep doing it. If ever a player seems to be on tilt or something funky is going on with my image I will just jam and be lucky enough for somebody else at the table to decide he'll look me up. People play with too much emotion so if you catch them doing it you can get them to make awesome mistakes. It doesn't matter how much I raise pre-flop any ace will appear on the board so screw it I want to get all the money in the middle while I am still ahead.

Any caller will usually have Ax or a lower pair. No point getting all fancy I want them to fold or commit everything they have in front of them whilst I am ahead. But I can play super LAG like that sometimes...

I might also shove JJ from middle position because the hand never wins anyways. I'd rather take the chance of being called by a higher pocket pair or have them all fold and simply scoop the blinds. Over the course of time all that blind money adds up to a sizeable figure won with JJ, compared to losing handsomely all those 3-4bets that I put in when it doesn't hit.
 
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