CHECK RAISE a failed strategy?

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Check raise sometimes is a very dangerous strategy (in the flop), here examples :icon_stud
 

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These hands look crazy!!!
Check Raise is still a good strategy but not Check/Shove which is seemingly the case for these hands otherwise may be better float some flops and check shove or lead and shove on t on the turn to protect your hand from being outdrawn.
 
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I am not sure how you played every hand, as we can only see the river situation. Check raise on turn is probably not bad and if you get no bet on the turn, I guess, you should bet yourself on turn for value or to hush someone out of the hand, who could get better hand on river than you.
 
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I am not sure how you played every hand, as we can only see the river situation. Check raise on turn is probably not bad and if you get no bet on the turn, I guess, you should bet yourself on turn for value or to hush someone out of the hand, who could get better hand on river than you.
It is dangerous to CHECK on the flop, even if you have flush or toppair, that's what I'm talking about
 
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It is dangerous to CHECK on the flop, even if you have flush or toppair, that's what I'm talking about
Oh, I got it wrong, because of this:
was a CHECK RAISE play after the flop!
I thought, after the flop, therefore I thought on turn, lol.
But yeah, of course you was risking a lot by checking on the flop.
First hand opponent can be drawing a straight or flush.
Second hand can be also drawing a flush.


And third one was really just unlucky. How often this happens, really?

Therefore, of course bet some on flop.
 
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Oh, I got it wrong, because of this:

I thought, after the flop, therefore I thought on turn, lol.
But yeah, of course you was risking a lot by checking on the flop.
First hand opponent can be drawing a straight or flush.
Second hand can be also drawing a flush.


And third one was really just unlucky. How often this happens, really?

Therefore, of course bet some on flop.
Yesterday I had the same thing in the freeroll in ACR, I had full on the flop and my opponent made me straiht flush
 
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was a CHECK RAISE play after the flop!

Yesterday I had the same thing in the freeroll in ACR, I had full on the flop and my opponent made me straiht flush
Okay, you was unlucky againg this time. I think, we could neglect the straight flushes, as they have a probability of 0,028 % to appear. But anyway I agree, that slow-playing on flop your hands, that you showed in your screenshots, isn't very recommendable.
 
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Okay, you was unlucky againg this time. I think, we could neglect the straight flushes, as they have a probability of 0,028 % to appear. But anyway I agree, that slow-playing on flop your hands, that you showed in your screenshots, isn't very recommendable.
yes!, it is also SLOWPLAY
 
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I think, the best is to put complete hand to the analysis thread. With all streets, so that we can really see, what happened. I am so confused now, sorry.
 
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Check raise sometimes is a very dangerous strategy (in the flop), here examples :icon_stud

Ah come on dude, what means a very dangerous strategy, with such a strong hand, as you had, you should be happy having all your chips in the middle. Your examples are kinda tough bad beats, that's it they happen. You was unlucky, but it shouldn't confuse you, that you played it wrong because of that, cause on the long run it makes money. If you are not trying to maximize your value with monsters, then you are loosing money on a long run and it's not a good play, so i don't see anything to be changed here. I see just couple of screenshots with a real bad bad beats. Sh*t happens. In poker even more often, than anywhere else... Just forget them and play further in hope, that downswing end soon and try to play your A-Game. That's all you can do with it.
 
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You might have to apply more pressure on the flop, say check shove, getting bad beat on the river is just bad luck, check raise is still a good strategy to apply pressure on opponents
 
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Well, checking the flop is not a bad move at all. If you have the strongest hand on the flop with a pair or a three of a kind, or you have the flush or straight already, then you should never check! You always need to bet it, but if you are not sure you are the strongest, then let your opponent bet and then call and see what comes on the turn or river.
 
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A check raise is valid if you are sure that your opponent will place a bet. But with the over pair and TPTK in 75% of cases it is necessary to take the initiative in their own hands. In the third case, a possible slowplay, but it is cooler, the loss is inevitable.
 
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