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I feel that i c-bet to often. how often should you c-bet and what boards should you stay away from c-betting. should you take your stack size into account when deciding whether or not to c-bet?
 
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I feel that i c-bet to often. how often should you c-bet and what boards should you stay away from c-betting. should you take your stack size into account when deciding whether or not to c-bet?

I'm sure there are close to optimal numbers and stats out there for cbetting, but I really don't know them. You want to make your decision based on your opponents, the board, and your image.

If your opponent does not fold and your hand does not connect with the board, why would you cbet?

Stack sizes should be considered before you even decide to play the hand preflop. If you are realizing stack sizes are odd once the flop is out and action is on you, then you made a mistake. And believe me, it happens to everyone. It's something you have to try to be conscious of when you are playing - especially if you multitable.

For instance, don't cbet a short stack if you're not prepared to call his all in.
 
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If your opponent does not fold and your hand does not connect with the board, why would you cbet?

isn't part of the point of c-betting to get your opponent to fold when you haven't connected with the board? this advise would apply to the turn and not the flop right?
 
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Some opponents always defend their BB, or always like calling with hand like 67 from the button.
Then you want to c-bet for value even when you dont hit the board.
Other players call a lot pre-flop but fold to a c-bet. Then you want to c-bet as well.
So the answer really is that you should c-bet vs some opponents, and not as much vs others.
 
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isn't part of the point of c-betting to get your opponent to fold when you haven't connected with the board? this advise would apply to the turn and not the flop right?

It all depends on your opponent. If he folds 80% of the time to C bets, then I'm going to C bet him 100% of the time until he give me a reason not to. If someone only folds to C bets 20% of the time, I'm not going to C bet on any random board. You would want to C bet boards that are likely to hit your range. Or boards that you have a draw on.

You also need to balance your play, if you are C betting 100% of the time, you are very exploitable. I've seen a lot of different "optimal" numbers for this stat, but if you are c betting 60% - 75% over a large sample, you are about where you should be.
 
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isn't part of the point of c-betting to get your opponent to fold when you haven't connected with the board? this advise would apply to the turn and not the flop right?
Well this is only when you have nothing. Just as often you want to c-bet for value, and then you want your oponent to call.
 
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I think a lot of it depends on the toughness of your opponents. If your opponent is loose and passive you can c-bet more often, but a smarter opponent is unlikely to give your c-bet much respect on an 8,6,3 board. I think board texture is also crucial, you really one one face card and two smaller cards. You should also sometimes just check the flop to add unpredictability, I think I use to have the same issue but I've tried just checking randomly to throw off my opponents.

A lot of opponents have become wise to the cbet and they'll try to float. This is where checking the turn sometimes becomes important and then the c/r when they try to steal (which they'll do often, if they don't then you can bet the river.)
 
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isn't part of the point of c-betting to get your opponent to fold when you haven't connected with the board? this advise would apply to the turn and not the flop right?

Well continuation betting is just a name given to the action of betting out first into a board when you are the preflop raiser (or is it raisor?).

So yes, cbets can be useful when you have fold equity. But if you know that your opponent floats everytime or goes to showdown every hand, there is no fold equity, and therefore no point in cbetting w/o a hand ahead of his range.
 
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