This causes me a REVENGE TILT...?

...when opponent constantly steals my blinds by raising, and when I raise back, he goes to all-in, and when I call, I lose my stack after stack. That makes me angry as ¤#%¤&!

What is a revenge tilt? I heard this term from Jared Tendler's book The Mental Game of Poker. The most helpful poker book I have ever read. Because of revenge tilt, I had my biggest losing day yesterday, but it was actually my most educational day as well. Now I know what is my biggest problem. I thought I can throw my ego out of the window at the poker table, but after 10 buy-ins only because I want my money back from that stupid maniac, I realized my ego is just fckng with me. That is MY MONEY f sake!!!

Here are short introductions of different types of tilt: http://jaredtendlerpoker.com/wp-content/uploads/7-Types-of-Tilt.pdf


And gamblers, oh god. I really want to move up stakes to get rid of them. I think I should learn that skill as well, putting people to tilt.

But anyway, I just wanted to blow off steam by writing this. What is that causes you a revenge tilt? How do you handle that?

Hi.
During the game, I try to make the right decisions and I rarely hope for luck. The key factor for a successful player is patience, and so I also always try to be patient. If I follow the discipline, I always control my emotions and do not react to the provocations of the opponents.
Good luck.

Newzooozooo said:

Hi.
During the game, I try to make the right decisions and I rarely hope for luck. The key factor for a successful player is patience, and so I also always try to be patient. If I follow the discipline, I always control my emotions and do not react to the provocations of the opponents.
Good luck.

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great approach to the game. good example. and the book mentioned above is also an excellent poker handbook for the line of game psychology[emoji122] [emoji122] [emoji122] [emoji106] [emoji106] [emoji106]

Sometimes i rep straights and flushes on super wet boards, and if someone calls all 3 streets with bottom pair it angers me lol. I think to myself how could anyone make that call and still be in the tournament...Then i tilt and just start playing like a maniac, to be fair tho that's when i have the most fun, it can be hilarious at times.

I wish I'm dealt premium hand against this type of player. Patience is key. Don't let emotions get at you.

Newzooozooo said:

I always control my emotions

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So, how do you control your emotions?

poker_bro said:

What is that causes you a revenge tilt? How do you handle that?

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I've been recently struggling with revenge tilt more than I would like to admit. I used to control my motions really well before but last couple of months have been horrible when it comes to that. I don't mind losing to a better set or a better flush for example but losing to someone who is playing poorly really gets me. And that's when I go for the revenge and usually end up losing.

I get tilted if someone 3bets against me all the time or if someone calls my 3bets with something like 3Jo and then gets lucky. After that I start to play much more loose against them and begin to do stupid things like calling/going all-in with only mediocre hands even though they have been calling or raising so far. Or then I start to represent strong hands, like flushes, only to get called down with nothing more than one weak pair. It almost seems like my opponents know exactly when I'm beat and only trying to get my revenge with nothing.

The good thing is that this is a problem I acknowledge. That means I can cure myself from it if I just find my patience again. At least for now I am able to quit immediately if I lose after making one tilt move, so that's a start. The next goal is not to make that tilt move at all. But sometimes my hands just click that call or all-in button even though my brain screams not to do that.

Anyway, tilt is a mental state that can be cured with patience and self-control so I try to remember that before I start to play and really challenge myself to stick with my A-game. Today for example was a very good day and I didn't tilt even though there were situations where I really wanted to go crazy again. And that's why I ended up winning much more than on average lately. It's important to get those good days that will lift your spirit up once again and show you that you win when you just stay away from tilting. So next time you begin to play, just promise yourself that you will not tilt no matter what happens, and really stick to that promise. It may not be easy and you might fail that promise sometimes like I have, but try to take one step at a time. And if you find yourself tilting again, just get back up and fight against that feeling over and over again.

poker_bro said:

...when opponent constantly steals my blinds by raising, and when I raise back, he goes to all-in, and when I call, I lose my stack after stack. That makes me angry as ¤#%¤&!

What is a revenge tilt? I heard this term from Jared Tendler's book The Mental Game of Poker. The most helpful poker book I have ever read. Because of revenge tilt, I had my biggest losing day yesterday, but it was actually my most educational day as well. Now I know what is my biggest problem. I thought I can throw my ego out of the window at the poker table, but after 10 buy-ins only because I want my money back from that stupid maniac, I realized my ego is just fckng with me. That is MY MONEY f sake!!!

Here are short introductions of different types of tilt: http://jaredtendlerpoker.com/wp-content/uploads/7-Types-of-Tilt.pdf


And gamblers, oh god. I really want to move up stakes to get rid of them. I think I should learn that skill as well, putting people to tilt.

But anyway, I just wanted to blow off steam by writing this. What is that causes you a revenge tilt? How do you handle that?

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Already went through this 2 years ago! I could not manage to help myself, so another CC member appeared on my table and helped me to avoid further damages, because this condition is really awful. Since then, I am playing really rarely cash tables and I am happy with that :top:

poker_bro said:

...And gamblers, oh god. I really want to move up stakes to get rid of them.

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Sorry, gamblers out there will risk 10k on a coin flip. Betting higher stakes is not going to get rid of the people that can put us on tilt.

Yeah, its not hard to make poker clashes an ego thing. I try to stay away from it as much as I can. Cause it never ends good. You cant be sure if your opponent have the hand or he just plays you.

I remind myself that the best way to win a battle is to take your opponent to your ground. And the best way to lose a battle is to let your opponent take you to his ground.

Just because he plays like a maniac, shoving any two, playing any two, reraise and check raise with air or whatever, it doesnt mean its a good strategy. If you believe in your poker skills, just stick to your strategy and keep playing your A game whatever your opponent do. Raise your good hands, fold your bad hands, if you find a leak in his game manipulate him, but dont change your whole game because of him and start doing things just to get him, cause if you do that you have already lose.

eberetta1 said:

Sorry, gamblers out there will risk 10k on a coin flip. Betting higher stakes is not going to get rid of the people that can put us on tilt.

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You want gamblers at the table, the better you play the easier they are to exploit. Skill pays better than luck over time.

If someone has the key to not get angry at the tables, it will be bilonary because it is very difficult to control the luck factor, I notice that in most of the hand that I lose all in when I turn on the river the card that changes the game as not to get angry .

poker_bro said:

...when opponent constantly steals my blinds by raising, and when I raise back, he goes to all-in, and when I call, I lose my stack after stack. That makes me angry as ¤#%¤&!

What is a revenge tilt? I heard this term from Jared Tendler's book The Mental Game of Poker. The most helpful poker book I have ever read. Because of revenge tilt, I had my biggest losing day yesterday, but it was actually my most educational day as well. Now I know what is my biggest problem. I thought I can throw my ego out of the window at the poker table, but after 10 buy-ins only because I want my money back from that stupid maniac, I realized my ego is just fckng with me. That is MY MONEY f sake!!!

Here are short introductions of different types of tilt: http://jaredtendlerpoker.com/wp-content/uploads/7-Types-of-Tilt.pdf


And gamblers, oh god. I really want to move up stakes to get rid of them. I think I should learn that skill as well, putting people to tilt.

But anyway, I just wanted to blow off steam by writing this. What is that causes you a revenge tilt? How do you handle that?

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You know there's gonna be gamblers whichever stakes you play at right? There will always be moments where you're gonna be forced to choose whether to give into your emotions and tilt even further, or to compose yourself by becoming aware of those moments right before you go on tilt. It's only through that self awareness that you can actually grow as a poker player.

need to worry less. you need to learn more from mistakes and correct them. it's just a game, but not a bad life in general[emoji293][emoji364]

i thought about moving up stakes bc playing in several 5 dollar buy ins late at night making the money both times when in lower stakes i can't even cash but i found there's just as many donks there as there is the lower levels

poker_bro said:

...when opponent constantly steals my blinds by raising, and when I raise back, he goes to all-in, and when I call, I lose my stack after stack. That makes me angry as ¤#%¤&!

What is a revenge tilt? I heard this term from Jared Tendler's book The Mental Game of Poker. The most helpful poker book I have ever read. Because of revenge tilt, I had my biggest losing day yesterday, but it was actually my most educational day as well. Now I know what is my biggest problem. I thought I can throw my ego out of the window at the poker table, but after 10 buy-ins only because I want my money back from that stupid maniac, I realized my ego is just fckng with me. That is MY MONEY f sake!!!

Here are short introductions of different types of tilt: http://jaredtendlerpoker.com/wp-content/uploads/7-Types-of-Tilt.pdf


And gamblers, oh god. I really want to move up stakes to get rid of them. I think I should learn that skill as well, putting people to tilt.

But anyway, I just wanted to blow off steam by writing this. What is that causes you a revenge tilt? How do you handle that?

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If it was me at the table I'm sorry. But let me fill you in on a madness theory. Helmuths good friend used to sit down at a limit holdem game and raise everhand every street until he either lost 3x buyins or the table opened up so wide that switching back to tight was profitable. Everyone else on the table is either A thinking you are an idiot and is now calling you down with everything
B they try to stay tight and away from you but cant help defending out of position with the blinds
C. theyr range opens up and they become the guy that raises everyhand trying to play back at my strategy he believes is maniac tilt

So to cause revenge tilt you want to be aggressive in position to tight NON tricky players.
Reraising the flop after seeing an abnormal bet size indicating weakness of the play. You want to win the pot and show the 59 you preflop raised 3x with. the revenge tilt will only start once the player realizes you are abusing him.59 vs ak is a 33.9%to win but how much of the pot can you win compared to your stack preflop? Does the overlay it cover the 33.9% even if not it leads to extra equity from your good hands when they do arrive if so Choosing mathematically appropriate spots you can become absolutely unreadable and they will all hate you at the table.

Though Gus Hansen does need to understand how to slow down and analyze when to do this besides the blinds are up and my stack is this %.., he does win the Aussie millions while doing this approach. He follows the shove for overlay and potential steals aspect very well. Its just he doesnt understand it. He can drive the piss out of it but he cant tell you how to know when each player has hit the im gonna revenge this guy moment, math is on but we need a master tilt instructor like me xD
Mabey I'll write a post" the art of tilt"