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ssutter
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Kurtimus
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Well, the fundamental difference with cash games is you're usually close to 100bb deep, wheras in a tournament you're like 15 to 40bb or whatever, which makes it play much differently. Stacks are bigger so there are more streets of betting. In a tournament you won't tend to face a ton of hard river choices, because either the pot is small, or the chips already got committed earlier in the hand. Cash games are a lot about reading and exploiting your opponents, and tournaments involve changing strategies to suit your stack size, the blind levels, and the payout structure.
If you want to transition from MTTs to cash, I would suggest that you focus on studying deep stack play, and forget everything to do with push/fold strategies because they don't apply here. Sometimes in an MTT you need to push with suboptimal cards. In cash games it almost always pays to be patient.
If you want to transition from MTTs to cash, I would suggest that you focus on studying deep stack play, and forget everything to do with push/fold strategies because they don't apply here. Sometimes in an MTT you need to push with suboptimal cards. In cash games it almost always pays to be patient.
Ivansito26
Legend
Silver Level
in my case, I can play thousands of tournaments, but when I enter the cash table, I enter tilt very fast and I must improve that aspect in me, because what leads me is to lose and lose ... but with time and discipline you can be better on both sides
AMTF1988
Rock Star
Silver Level
I feel is all mindset. when I play cash games on the wsop App I do really well, when I switch to real cash games I crash hard and fast. I don't think I take the risks I need to to pay off with real money and hold back a lot. If I play a $1 tournament I can do really well and walk away with a prize, if I play a cash game with $1 buy in, most I end up with is $1.50 if I'm lucky, other 75% of the time I end with nothing
Peppinotom
Legend
Silver Level
I'm completely on your side, all my wins from MTT's are spent for "TRAINING" in cash cames. And as you mentioned, tilting is a big aspect. If tou tilt in a tournament, your buy in is gone. Tilting in cash game effects your bankroll entirely.
Winning in a cash game involves as well STOPPING TO PLAY when you are winning.
I was leading so many times big, but as we now, lots of players are observing the tables waiting for you, Champ! So maybe you'd say, I make it to my 75% win and change the table or come back later.
But I'm not trustworthy anyway, my bankroll is <10$ hence of today
Winning in a cash game involves as well STOPPING TO PLAY when you are winning.
I was leading so many times big, but as we now, lots of players are observing the tables waiting for you, Champ! So maybe you'd say, I make it to my 75% win and change the table or come back later.
But I'm not trustworthy anyway, my bankroll is <10$ hence of today
MattRyder
🍏 Tech That Works!
Platinum Level
I have trouble with this assertion. While playing like a donkey "can" be successful, you just have to look ay the lobby of any freeroll to see thousands of donkeys busting out in the first few minutes to realize it's not a winning strategy for the vast majority.
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AviCKter
Visionary
Silver Level
More important question is "Why do you want to transition from Tournaments to Cash games?"
I've gone the other way, once I knew I was not that good with post-flop play. On the question, Cash game has a lot to do with post-flop play (since you're that deep), while in tournaments that won't be such for a large portion of the game. The strategy for both is vastly different and you'll need to put in volume in terms of number of hands played in cash game vs the number of games played in tournaments. Patience becomes a key factor. The rest of the mathematical calculations, i.e. ROI, Variance, etc also becomes very different. Its a lot of hard work, but if you're still determined, start working on your hand reading skills, EV calculations (Check, bet, call, raise, fold), post-flop strategy.
I'm sure more skilled cash game players can add to the list of concepts you need to get a better grip on.
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AviCKter
Visionary
Silver Level
Dude, seriously STOP. Rather than going on a ranting-spree, put in some work & you'll be better off.
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Rational Madman
Legend
Platinum Level
I do, I profit daily thanks.
thetick33
Legend
Silver Level
brm is everything for both cash and tourneys. I actually believe you have to pay your dues in cash games. One thing is its easy to jump into a tournament for 3.30 etc.. yet for cash to be bankrolled right 100.00 you should be under a quarter and you absolutely need to beat each level to move up if you dont you will have either swings or much much much worse. Is no shortcuts you got to play the hands
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CallmeFloppy
Legend
Bronze Level
Cash games and Tournaments are very different styles. There are few people that have the proper mentality for both games. If you ever want to lose quickly, try playing both at the same time. ( not a real recommendation )
thetick33
Legend
Silver Level
i love mixing it up myself cash games is easier if run 1-2 games and play 6 other rooms in mtts sngs etc..
will say one game mixed up at times is omaha have to think a lot more in omaha but like any other games at same time razz etc.. high lows even 8b omaha pot limit. I put a lot more thought in str8 omaha is why I guess. So do not like playing other games if playing a serious omaha str8 game
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mrpolyglott
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Nice topic, cause I've been thinking a lot about the difference between cash games and tourneys recently and found cash games being more desciplinary tha tourney, u r to fold a lot and to observe even more than fold, also donk presence influences a lot on the result (e.g. u may benefit a lot from donkeys in cash games while in the tourney they'll spoil u everything with their re-raises and so on)