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I have played poker for about 2 years on and off for fun with the freerolls some sites offer. Recently I decided to take the game seriously instead of just messing around. I have started studying, reading, and watching to improve my game. I have played a little in the micro stakes from the $.01/$.02 up to the $.25/$.50. My question is about gameplay and competition. Have you guys noticed if there is a certain point where gameplay starts to become more traditional or is the gameplay wildly erratic at all levels? As I consider myself a newbie when it comes to poker, at what level have you guys had success as a starting player? I am not expecting to make a profit or even break even at this point in my poker career. I would like to know at what stakes would be the best to work on my game to become a better player. Common sense would say to start at the $.01/$.02 tables, but common sense doesn't always equal reality. Any input you guys have would be greatly appreciated.
 
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10NL is fine level to start if you have the poker experience before and fine bankroll (I would guess 50BI minimum and enough to fill it up if you lose given online is new to you), that said 'erratic' is not the reason to skip 2NL or 5NL and you find 10NL erratic too. Problem with 25NL is that many villains probably see you 'erratic' there; hopefully at 10NL not that many feels so about you. If game would not be erratic sometimes, no-one would make profit in long term due rake.
 
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The rule of thumb when it comes to cash games is only move up stakes when you have leaned to beat the stakes you're currently at that your bankroll will permit.

And related to your question, bluffs don't work unless you know you can pressure your opponent into folding, which rarely happens in the micros.
 
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if you want big win, then you must play at higher stakes :p
 
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I have played a little in the micro stakes from the $.01/$.02 up to the $.25/$.50.
You played at 50NL and continue to ask these newbie questions? I can't beat 5NL, very different from 2NL, % of fishes and madmen falls tenfold...
 
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In cash games you have to choose a bet that will not be difficult for you financially if you lose. It's better to train in tournaments like me with small buys
 
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@TryTo not 50nl I don't have the bankroll to play that. 25 cent/50 cent games a few times. I have openly admitted that I am a relative newbie to poker. As a newb it seemed to me that 25 cents and 50 cents was not that much money. As a newb that was less money than games I have played in person. Little did I know how quickly the online game moved opposed to a live session. So any help is appreciated. Thank you to everyone that has replied!
 
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Hi. One the issues I've seen with people starting at 2NL is they find it hard to take seriously since most hands are just a few cents. If you don't have that issue then that is probably the place to start. Play generally gets better as the stakes increases as you might expect. It probably depends on the site, but in my experience there is a noticeable difference between 2NL and 5NL, at 2NL it seems to be more common to get players with stats way out of the norm.
 
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I have played poker for about 2 years on and off for fun with the freerolls some sites offer. Recently I decided to take the game seriously instead of just messing around. I have started studying, reading, and watching to improve my game. I have played a little in the micro stakes from the $.01/$.02 up to the $.25/$.50. My question is about gameplay and competition. Have you guys noticed if there is a certain point where gameplay starts to become more traditional or is the gameplay wildly erratic at all levels? As I consider myself a newbie when it comes to poker, at what level have you guys had success as a starting player? I am not expecting to make a profit or even break even at this point in my poker career. I would like to know at what stakes would be the best to work on my game to become a better player. Common sense would say to start at the $.01/$.02 tables, but common sense doesn't always equal reality. Any input you guys have would be greatly appreciated.
Friend, I also play money, within these same limits, I understood that you have to be aggressive, I can win big amounts, but I risk a lot ... this is my fault ... but my performance in Zomm is relatively good I get a good amount , in the zoom all expect a strong hand, risk a reasonable hand and your gains will be greater! good luck :)
 
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I really don't think things become more "traditional". I actually think the better the players the more unconventional the game becomes. After you play thousands of hands you start to see more and more that most poker hands are incredibly close. It becomes more of a post flop game and putting people on hands.
 
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I guess this differs from player to player but try tourneys/sngs more. I look back at it now like 'how did I ever survive cash tables'. It's fun but can get very wild. Try the 9man sng's. Or 50c tourneys.
 
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