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Hi all its me again with another hole in my game. This time its all about reads. When i 1st started this crazy bus. called online poker i used to have a list of reads that i would follow. For the most part they worked. My live games that i would play with the guys every friday night started off real well but has since faded like a new pair of jeans washed for the 1st time. My Casino poker game is at best below average simply because i think im playing way to many hands just to be in on the action. I know i know that was covered in "Cardschat help ll". Let the ego go David and count to 10 if it helps....Anyway back to my hole. I used to take notes on standout players that were just bad. The good to great players it would simply be a Stay away note. But now i take notes about 10% of the time so im assuming thats laziness on my part our lack of wanting to improve my odds of winning. My live games with the guys and gals seems like when im in a big hand they seem to make the right read on me. I know its something that im doing but i really cant ask them to tell me my tells but i need to change whatever it is. I tried sunglasses , hoodies, masks, headphones, not drinking, drinking. Whats left......for me to try? Now onto the casino play. I think in writing this topic maybe reads at the casino isnt a issue as much as having enough money to start might be my problem. I normally dont take more than 100.00 to sit down and play 2/4.... or 150.00 to play 3/6. Let me be the 1st to say i never have nor do i know understand exactly the whole big blind to bankroll ratio needed to sit and play but if you can explain im here to listen. So maybe this hole needs to be changed from reads to Reads and Bankroll.... Thanks again for the help and keep it coming


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my advice is know some basics of poker, poker is not playing with poker face but instead play with pot odds, winning equity and so on.

try make clear of all that, the face reorganization helps to increase your edge, but not all of the time.

good luck then.
 
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Your absolutely right i don't completely understand the pot odds and implied odds and position , etc... . But just like in blackjack there is this thing called playing by the book. Im assuming in poker there is a Playing by the book also. I just dont get how you get a percentage of how often a hand wins when you dont have all the data to back it up with. I mean who started taking data on when AA win preflop and what percent of the time does 10's beats AK. Im just saying i have a hard time when i can really only go by my data and that is flawed because im not playing the same person all the time. I think when it comes to my game which we all know has holes in it that its really more of a instinct then a play by the book style. I need to know why a 3 bet is more respectable play then a all in or say a 5 bet. Who came up with these so called rules. How do you play AA? Once again i dont disagree with anyones style of play nor do try and say mine is the best but i think we all at some point play by instinct when it comes down to it. Sometimes its right and most of the time its wrong but nonetheless we use it 100% of the time and thats the only true data that i can understand.
 
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Your absolutely right i don't completely understand the pot odds and implied odds and position , etc... . But just like in blackjack there is this thing called playing by the book. Im assuming in poker there is a Playing by the book also. I just dont get how you get a percentage of how often a hand wins when you dont have all the data to back it up with. I mean who started taking data on when AA win preflop and what percent of the time does 10's beats AK. Im just saying i have a hard time when i can really only go by my data and that is flawed because im not playing the same person all the time. I think when it comes to my game which we all know has holes in it that its really more of a instinct then a play by the book style. I need to know why a 3 bet is more respectable play then a all in or say a 5 bet. Who came up with these so called rules. How do you play AA? Once again i dont disagree with anyones style of play nor do try and say mine is the best but i think we all at some point play by instinct when it comes down to it. Sometimes its right and most of the time its wrong but nonetheless we use it 100% of the time and thats the only true data that i can understand.

this is what I understand.
you have problem of getting paid by AA
and my advice is
understand pot odds[preflop pot odds], hand ranges.
to make things clear -- play a set of hands including AA the same way. at Early position, raise AK and AA or 78s the same amount, Yes, If they think you have AA all the time, fine I got some weak hands like 78s and get paid for big blinds and small blinds without contest. the pot odds is for a set of hands not a single hand.

unfortunately there is no such book tells you have to play each hand, because you are against different kind of people or like you described, same bunch of people but different time - they might tilt, in A game or whatever. think need to handle the situation hand by hand.

PS: other question is hard to answer, I suggest you finding a book, 3bet if more respect than all in, humm, i don't think nowadays, 3bet gets more respect.
how to play AA, that is another hard question, I think I play AA with other kind of hands the same way, I do not treat any single hand, but I play a set of hands on the table the same way, and that range of hands will caculated depends on who you play against.
 
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Reads are more important in your post flop game. Knowing when your opponent has the goods and when he doesn't is an art which is hard to teach. You really have to know who the opponent plays. Good players will mix up their play, so as not to give themselves away. You also have to be aware how players see you. Are you making obvious moves without knowing it? Good luck
 
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Your absolutely right i don't completely understand the pot odds and implied odds and position , etc... . But just like in blackjack there is this thing called playing by the book. Im assuming in poker there is a Playing by the book also. I just dont get how you get a percentage of how often a hand wins when you dont have all the data to back it up with. I mean who started taking data on when AA win preflop and what percent of the time does 10's beats AK. Im just saying i have a hard time when i can really only go by my data and that is flawed because im not playing the same person all the time. I think when it comes to my game which we all know has holes in it that its really more of a instinct then a play by the book style. I need to know why a 3 bet is more respectable play then a all in or say a 5 bet. Who came up with these so called rules. How do you play AA? Once again i dont disagree with anyones style of play nor do try and say mine is the best but i think we all at some point play by instinct when it comes down to it. Sometimes its right and most of the time its wrong but nonetheless we use it 100% of the time and thats the only true data that i can understand.

Dude you don't have holes in your game you have craters. You really need to stay off the felt until you've read super system or something similar to give you basic mechanics. Right now is like you're in the pga your asking what's the difference between a driver and a putter. I'm not trying to be mean, just real. Study up or you'll get slaughtered continually. Good luck.
 
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Seriously consider reading or audio books to get some basic mechanics of the game down. The Harrington tournament series and cash series are a great place to start. Mathematics of Poker would also be recommended highly to you. You could follow that up with the mental game of poker set. From there you can find many many more books, videos and articles. Keep playing as you read and study. Watch how it affects your game and adapt. This may take some time so be patient, which is a key skill in poker and from the sounds of it one you will be learning. Good luck and put in the work!
 
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Be patient and your games will become better and better, and have measure.
 
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try make clear of all that, the face reorganization helps to increase your edge, but not all of the time.
 
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