Originally Posted by DavidC17
Also, I was just wondering what kind of winrates people at 600nl or 1knl have? do they play 3 or 5bb/100 or do they aim for 1 or 2bb/100?
I don't want an exact answer as everyone plays differently but an estimate would be good enough.
I really hope this is a curiosity question? You need to be focusing on how to make improvements to your game here and now, not how much money can be made at 1k NL. Having a distant goal CAN be motivational, but it can also leech your productivity, as it will have you daydreaming instead of focusing on improving your game.
Originally Posted by DavidC17
It's not out of boredom but by getting mad that people who play so badly manage to suck out on you. I know it might only be the 1 hand that it worked for them but that 1 hand vs me makes me feel that they are better then me and so I tilt.
The biggest point in what you're saying here is something you may not have thought of before. Variance happens in poker. Often, it is that "ONE HAND" as you call it that allows bad players to think they are good players, and keeps them interested. Or sometimes poor players believe poker is mostly luck, and they don't realize they are losing much, MUCH more often than they are winning.
In addition, why would one hand cause you to think another player is better than you, if that player had to hit an unlikely card to win the hand? This simply doesn't make sense, and you should convince yourself why this is so. It may seem silly, but building up logic bases like this will help you immensely when beginning to feel tilt:
- "Fish only keep playing because they get lucky. Therefore they must get lucky against me sometimes for me to make money on them in the long run.
- "This player had an X% chance of losing this hand when all the money got in, and he got lucky by hitting that card. I know I played the hand well, and that's all I have control over
Realizing that you can't control variance, but that you have a lot of power to control other factors is an enormous part of eliminating tilt for a lot of people imo. The root of MOST tilt (again, imho) comes from a lack of understanding of variance. Believing you can beat a given player any time, in any situation. Believing you will consistently win, just because you are playing well. Etc. The list goes on.
While yes, willpower is important for eliminating tilt, I think there are some helpful resources out there too. Jared Tendler's "Mental Game of Poker" is a great book that focuses on tilt in poker, and not just how to control it when it happens, but how to lessen it's total impact on you. I also found Tommy Angelo's "Eightfold Path to Poker Enlightenment" to be a phenomenal series. I'd also recommend searching 2p2 for Concept of the Week posts on stress management and tilt. And just learn all you can about variance. [link removed ~tb] is a great site for exploring variance in poker. Sometimes just screwing around with the variance simulator there helps me feel better about a downswing I'm having, or just reminds me of the impact of variance in poker.
Wow, guess I ended up writing a monster post there. I personally went through a bit of a mental game revamping, which is mostly documented on another forum. If you're interested in looking at it, send me a PM and I'll give you the link.
Before I let this get any longer... Welcome to CC!!