Building Bank Roll .. helppppppp

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i will be deposting for the first time real soon,, what advice can you all give as far as what tables, tourneys, sit n gos, to get started building up .. 50$ in NL hold em.. any advice would be much appreciated..
Thanks and cu @ the tables :)
 
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Smallest sit-n goes possible until you get above your deposit amount.
Once you get some built you can move up but never allow yourself back below your deposit amount. if so tighten up and play in the smallest again.


GOOD LUCK!
 
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yea small sit-n-gos and occasional 1$ multi-table tourneys....also you might wanna play some freerolls as well there is nothing to loseand they give you some good practice
 
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yes sit n go's are a good way to start ..and no one has said this to you yet but i think its the best advice.. always if your starting out ... and you find great hands are getting bad beats and it seems like its just not your day .. It's probably not ..been there and suffered terribly for not realizing and kept feeding the animals ... if its not your day and your getting bad beats .. get away from the table take a break try again later or another day ... i play very tight and aggressive usually but some days that dont even help...when you got the nuts some one chases and hits beating your nut hand and so on over and over...Good Luck ..keep your emotions off the table...or TILT
 
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bankroll building

with a 50 dollar start i would play the micro limit sng's both on fulltilt or stars . the 1.25 FTP or 1.20 PS play these til you grow your bankroll to 125 or 150 then move up to the 5.5 if you lose a large part of your bankroll go back down to the micro limits again til you work your way up .

Hope this helps and Good Luck at the tables ..
 
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banks!

Building a bankroll is pretty easy. Keeping one is the hard part. Playing over my head has been my biggest stumbling block.

Do some searching and find a money management plan that you like then stick to it.
 
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With a $50 deposit I'd say the only things you're rolled for are $1 SNGs and MTTs with buy-ins of 50 cents or less. Since Full Tilt dosen't offer MTTs with buy-ins of 50 cents or less (I'm not counting their 10 cent tourney with 50 cent rebuys), Stars is probably your best bet.

Also search for and read Chris Ferguson's article on how he built a $10K roll on Full Tilt from zero. It has great tips on bankroll management.
 
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Also search for and read Chris Ferguson's article on how he built a $10K roll on Full Tilt from zero. It has great tips on bankroll management.

Most definitely. This is a really great article. I am probably a living example on how NOT to build a bankroll from 50 bucks. I decided that i would start playing at .10/.25 NL cash games with half my bankroll and within a week or so was down to like 8 bucks. I bought in with all of that at a .05/.10 NL table and thankfully didnt lose all of it (although i very well could have). I have since learned my lesson and now only play within the limits of my bankroll.
 
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Hi,
I play a lot of sng and tourneys to build bankroll, I do right thing and wait to move up but lately have played a few higher ones and been donked, was told by other players "what do u expect from that dollar value of tourney". How can I build a bankroll if keep running into this kind of problem, and is this the attitude of all players??. Ive also looked at sites to give status on players but a lot are very incorrect, is there a more accurate one I can look up???

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BRM!

I've found,LATE (after loosing ALOT 'cuz I didn't ask 1st!) that the best stratagy was to start w/micro-sng/mtts and build up from there! I've won several times at poker stars .10 mtt---took a while, but with alot of patience, I built .10 into $15 a couple of times, but broke my own rules by entering higher than I shoulda SnGs!Also, Chris Fergusen has an excelent article on Bank Roll Mng. at Full Tilt--Just go to FT an' look for articles by Chris! Good Luck!:eek:
 
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One piece of info i always stick by and give is - enjoy it :)
 
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avoid any sngs with a rake grater than 10%....The 1.25 sngs are 25% rake and hard to overcome...Id play the 3.25s....$50 is not a bankroll imo, grind out a couple hundred and then worry about proper bankroll management imo....
 
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I agree with everyone else here... with $50 to start with, FT $1.25 sit n goes are your best value. The 9-handed tourneys get you $4 for first place, and they're fairly easy to consistently beat. Just make sure you're playing small pot poker and minimizing your losses if you think you're beat, until you get into top 3. Those games only take 30-45 minutes max, so just practice patience, and you should fair off well.

The $2.25 18-handed sit n' goes are great to take a stab with once you've gotten your BR to about $70 and want to take a stab at making a leap in prize money. $14 goes to first place here. Again, if you've been comfortable taking down the $1.25 SNG's, this should be a really easy game to adapt to, as you won't notice any difference in the caliber of player. These games though may go to about 1.5 hours, and you'll find it easy to at least cash consistently enough to make a profit off of this.

I think the $1-$3 SNG's are a great range to play within when your BR is within $50-$200 (depending on the risk you're willing to take), and you'll find that the profit you can make at these levels are more lucrative than the profits you can make in the cash ring games (.05/.10 and .10/.25) in the same time period. One major suckout in a ring game at these levels (which happen often with ultra-aggressive donkologists) can cripple your whole buy-in, whereas with a SNG, you can easily take on the damage of a major cooler without hurting your BR. The amount of action and play you get gives you a greater opportunity to adapt, learn, improve, and elevate your game to real money play.

If you've been playing with play money up until this point, it's very wise to get as much hands and volume in without risking your whole roll, and SNGs will help you accomplish this.

Good luck at the tables.
 
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I built up my poker account by starting with freeroll winnings. Then I bought into low limit sit n gos aswell as tourneys. I allow myself to play any game under $1 and reward myself with 1 more expensive game every couple of weeks. Amazing the difference in play at different buy in levels.

DEFINITELY STAY AWAY FROM CASH TABLES!
 
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In low limit buyin mtt with rebuys beware of the crazy idiots. Best to stick with sngs and freerolls till you get more familiar with the site your on and your own playing ability.
 
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I started with 50 dollars a month ago and was about to double it up to $100 fairly quickly by playing $2 sng's. The $1 sng's usually have an incredibly rake so I would stay away from those. And I also stayed away from cash games because of the swings you can have. The $2 games are usually soft and are fairly easy to take down by playing tight aggressive. Best of luck to you!
 
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dont bother with play money, lots of people dont care about it and will play any 2 for any amount. Best strategy, enjoy it while it lasts. Play multi table tournaments and look for a big cash.
 
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Yeah if you are going to play for play chips than play on a PS3 or something. I have heard they can be fun but what is the point of playing at an online poker site for play chips?
 
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i would recommend never depositing, start playing with freerolls to gain patience. learn how the cards fall and the best part is that in the end, if you never put money in, you can't lose what ya never started with.
 
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I agree with the post above me. If you don't have the patience to grind a bankroll from freerolls, you might not have the patience to manage a bankroll properly.

Google Chris Ferguson's articles on bankroll management. They're a huge inspiration.
 
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I'd suggest starting at the free tables if you haven't done so already.

Build up a 100k plus play money bankroll then go to real money.

I dont think thatd really help, if built up 100's of thousands in play chips - people play sooo differently that you really cant compare the two - I think if your looking to improve your better of playing in freerolls because even though people play crazy at first, the deeper you get into the freeroll, the more solid that play becomes
 
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I started out playing with play chips, but got frustrated real easy. If you thought the first hour of freerolls were bad, you need to go to to the play tables for a while. All-In pre-flop on a 7-2, no problem, their sooooooted. Hell, half the time that doesn't even matter :).
 
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The Chris Ferguson rule of only buying into any game with 5% of your bankroll and leaving if you have more than 10% of your bankroll at risk (if you win and the amount infront of you now represents that much) is perfect for minimizing your risk of ruin.

Unless you REALLY suck, any going busto story starts with someone playing outside their BR. And if you do suck, no strategy will save your roll. The only problem I have with Ferguson's strategy is the leaving part, because learning to play deep stacked properly is a great way to maximize your profits since most people suck at it.

Of course, it is because most people suck at deep stacked play that he recommends avoiding it
 
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Play money

I started playing online poker at a play money site, ESPN Poker Club. You can learn the basics to the game and you can definitely learn patience. There are so many people playing that have no idea what they are doing that you learn how to deal with being at a table with 5 or more players that simply will not fold, EVER. This is good practice for freerolls but why practice for freerolls? Why not just play them? After all they are free. I would avoid play money games and just play freerolls, then take your freeroll winnings and play some buy ins. That is how I am playing and never have a problem finding a game.
 
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