BR - Building a BR from SnGs and MTTs?

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Hi guys...need some help here...

I read alot about people grinding cash tables to build their bankroll... but I haven't heard from anyone who successfully built it up from SnGs?

My plan was to build up my BR from $300 to $1k with SnGs + MTTs in 20 days and then grind cash tables... but things have not going my way. My rules are the same set as Ferguson's.. No MTT buy-in bigger than 2% of your BR and SnG- 5%...

However, I took quite a big down wave.. from $600 to $360+ yesterday after not cashing in like 20 games or more? Half of those were Turbo single tables...
Is that normal? I asked myself whether I was on tilt and chalked it down to the fact I'm down with a flu.. (no mention of flu/health.. affecting poker play but does anyone have that prob as well?).. I also realised as I lost more, I felt more desperate to win so I played differently and was not playing my A game >.<

Today I did better.. got 1st in 45 player MTT... so I'm just above the 500 level but far from achievement with.. 6 days to go to meet my 1k target.

There was one day I shot up from 400-600 but the fluctuations are just crazy!

I am currently studying but I'm quite free nowadays.. with maybe 2-3 solid hours of poker a day with 2-4 tables at a time. I play mostly 6 table turbos + 18 player turbos (I do have Colin Moshmann's book on SNGs BTW). So I guess my questions are:

1) Building a BR with SnGs.. possible?Variance and all?
2) Is playing Turbos my problem? (I usually do that because I'm impatient and I can multitable ebtter)
3) Anyway I can improve my game?
4) Do you guys have strict rules about not playing when say you're sick and not 100%?
5) Any poker tools I should look into? I have HEM but its more for cash, isnt it?
6) $500 in 5 days... unrealistic target with SnGs and MTTs?

Hope to hear from peeps who actually have successfully done what I'm aiming to do!
 
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1) Definitely possible, the variance is wicked compared to cash games.
2) Turbos may be your problem, but the 5% rule for sngs is still kinda high in my opinion. I like having 50 buyins (or 2%)
3) You can always improve your game, and you are by making this thread.
4) Sick? No. Not 100% yea, when I am tilting I go outside.
5) I really don't think anything else is neccessary, but I don't use many poker tools like the others here on CC.
6) Don't be too concerned with doubling your BR in 5 days. I would suggest sticking to your rules and grinding until you get to 1k, rather than quickly try to get 1k in 5 days.

On a side note, many people make a living playing just SNGs and MTTs. My friend played online poker for 2 years, just playing SNGs and MTTs. I believe he made around 30k a year playing $20 and $30 sngs.

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1) Yeah definitely possible, but a 20 buyin bankroll is definitely not enough, as 20 BI downswings are not all that uncommon.

2) Probably not seeing as the underlying strategy in Turbos and reg SNGs is the same.

3) Read forums, post hands you're unsure of, read books (Moshman's SNG book is good, as well as the usual suspects like HoH etc)

4) I tend not to play when ill but don't have any strict rules about it. Of course a lot of the time I tend not to play while not ill, so meh.

5) SNGWiz for analyzing mid-late game push/fold decisions (google is your friend)

6) Any 5-day target is wholly unreasonable because of the variance of SNG/MTTs.
 
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Hi guys...need some help here...

I read alot about people grinding cash tables to build their bankroll... but I haven't heard from anyone who successfully built it up from SnGs?

My plan was to build up my BR from $300 to $1k with SnGs + MTTs in 20 days and then grind cash tables... but things have not going my way. My rules are the same set as Ferguson's.. No MTT buy-in bigger than 2% of your BR and SnG- 5%...

However, I took quite a big down wave.. from $600 to $360+ yesterday after not cashing in like 20 games or more? Half of those were Turbo single tables...
Is that normal? I asked myself whether I was on tilt and chalked it down to the fact I'm down with a flu.. (no mention of flu/health.. affecting poker play but does anyone have that prob as well?).. I also realised as I lost more, I felt more desperate to win so I played differently and was not playing my A game >.<

Today I did better.. got 1st in 45 player MTT... so I'm just above the 500 level but far from achievement with.. 6 days to go to meet my 1k target.

There was one day I shot up from 400-600 but the fluctuations are just crazy!

I am currently studying but I'm quite free nowadays.. with maybe 2-3 solid hours of poker a day with 2-4 tables at a time. I play mostly 6 table turbos + 18 player turbos (I do have Colin Moshmann's book on SNGs BTW). So I guess my questions are:

1) Building a BR with SnGs.. possible?Variance and all?
2) Is playing Turbos my problem? (I usually do that because I'm impatient and I can multitable ebtter)
3) Anyway I can improve my game?
4) Do you guys have strict rules about not playing when say you're sick and not 100%?
5) Any poker tools I should look into? I have HEM but its more for cash, isnt it?
6) $500 in 5 days... unrealistic target with SnGs and MTTs?

Hope to hear from peeps who actually have successfully done what I'm aiming to do!
Check out my "How to build a bankroll at PitBull Poker Thread" It's about MTTs and 2 table SnGs to build your BankRoll.....coyboy33
 
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I've finally hit my 1k target! Had 4 ITM finishes.. 3 of them final table.. 4th, 5th and 3rd! Really unlucky on the 3rd.. I had AA.. got sucked out by KK with runner flush.. and I had AQ v A rag and the guy hit his card...

But hey... I've hit my 1k target! W00t!
 
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wow congradulations on the money turby

thats pretty insane to make that much money that fast

have you considered playing poker and quitting your job? i mean it seems like poker is reallly profitable for you imo =]

anyways congrats
 
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Congrats on reaching your goal!!!
What buy in SNG's and MTT's were you playing??
 
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I ussually play SnG's, 5$ buy in! going slowly but ++
 
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Thanks, guys!

wow congradulations on the money turby

thats pretty insane to make that much money that fast

have you considered playing poker and quitting your job? i mean it seems like poker is reallly profitable for you imo =]


anyways congrats

LOL! I'm studying at the moment.. looking at how bad the economy.. that may become reality!


Congrats on reaching your goal!!!
What buy in SNG's and MTT's were you playing??

Um, actually I was playing mostly- 180 man MTTS $12 buy-in TURBO. Sometimes I register for the 45 man equivalent. These fill up really fast on PS!
You can check my stats out on PS; my screenname's: feedmy12kids.


I've got FT academy's video on TURBO by umm.. whathisname to thank for my playing style and its really worked for me. Thanks FTACADEMY! * insert endorsement here and expect FT to reimburse him his full BR in return >.<*

But my FT BR is looking really bad.. had $50.. pumped it up to $200+.. withdrew $150 and I've been having a bad run of late there on their $12 6-seater turbos. My BR is now down to $5 there.

Next goals for the end of the month:

1) Hit 2k bankroll.
2) Hit 1.2k PS VPPs to qualify for a platinum star. (i'm from the UK you see)
3) Finish reading Harrington's Vol 1 and Moshman's book on SnGs
4) Make ITM on cardchat's added tourney's...

But first.. a weekend at the girlfriend's!
 
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