Just as you said Poker Orifice, I play in micro and yes - it's crazy out there! I watched few games they play on bigger cash and they really do play much smarter and the bets aren't that crazy as in micro. However I'm now reading the "Mathematics of Poker" and again I come across a weird situation. This is just the begining where I am, pot odds and so, but there is a confusion for me - many poker sites
ar saying that in order to work out pot odds in % I have to add the opponents bet to the current pot then add my own (calling) bet to the pot and THEN calculate the proportion of the whole pot (pot + opp. bet + me calling) against my bet. Ex.: pot 100, opp. bet 50, so if I want to know the odds in % I havet to add 100 + 50 + my call 50 = 200, and then I calculate that I have to call 50 to win 200, so it's 25% and my chance of wining must be greater than 25%. These sites strongly underline NOT TO FORGET TO ADD YOUR OWN BET TO THE POT!!!
But in th "Mathematics of Poker" In pot odds section is an example:
A holds: Ad Kd
B holds: 8c 9c
Flop: Ac Kh 4c
The pot is now 75$
Everybody knows each other cards. So A bets 30$ and what should B do???
Example says that chance of B winning is 17% (8 outs as Kc makes full house for A), BUT his pot odds are 28,5%. Now this is where I don't understand it as the 28,5% is clearly calculated as pot 75$ + A bet 30 = 105$, so B has to bet 30 to win 105$ and here we get those 28,5%. But why didn't they add the B call amount to the pot??? As I read in sites it has to be like -> 75$ + A bet 30$ + B call 30$ = 135$, so B has to call 30 to win 135$ and that is 22%... anyway B shouldn't call, but what about the process of calculation - is it like the sites say, or is it like this book says??? If it were just one lousy site, but I read it everywhere!!!