Bluffing in low stakes sit-n-go's

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I have difficulty bluffing in low stakes sng's and I do it fairly infrequently. I was wondering if that's the recommended strategy or if I should be bluffing more. The problem is that since everyone starts out with 1500 chips, you don't have alot of power to bluff. Either you risk less chips and increase the chance of getting called (which will cause the chips to slowly be leaked off) or you risk more and your stack could drop in one hand. I find a ton of hands go to showdown on the low stakes b/c people don't care if they lose $2 so there's a high risk of getting caught bluffing. Am I right in playing these games with very few bluffs or should I be bluffing more?
 
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IMHO low stakes = ABC poker
There are opportunities to semi-bluff but they will be a lot less then you'd imagine. Stick to a ABC type game at these levels and you will see your ROI increase and your variance drop. Yes this may seem 'boring' to an action-loving player but at these levels it's the 'smart' play. If you want action then blow off steam on a $.02 table once in a while.
 
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I think low stake SNG's are very hard to bluff in, I try to semi-bluff and works most times. But when I bluff w/ nothing it seems that no one folds, and then all goes wrong from there. I semi-bluff a lot more often than I just plain bluff. I'm guessing that in a 45 ppl SNG I will try to bluff no more that 3 times. Semi-bluff on almost every opportunity I get, for example draws like str8's and flush's.

My advice to you on low stakes is to minimize your bluffing as much as you can because people don't really mind losing anything under $5. GL TC :D
 
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I have to agree with 5TR8 here, in low stakes SnGs I will hardly just plain bluff at a pot, but I will semi-bluff often. Figuring out when to bluff is definitely dependent on what the other players are like. Sometimes in a 9 person SnG I might bluff often, whereas in the next one I might not bluff at all. Really just depends (I think I say this way too often) on lots of different factors.
 
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The key to low stakes is value betting. Most players are not winning as much as they could because they do not bet for value enough.

Work on that aspect first.
 
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I've lost a lot of sitngos trying to bluff, but still you have to do it sometimes because i think it's a very important part of the game.

The problem is to make a bluff that can cost you the tournament in the early stages.
 
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At the micro stakes, I NEVER bluff until I'm ITM. There is always some donk that will call with any 2 just to be cute. I've learned the hard way that bluffing when there is virtually no money to win or lose doesn't work at all. The only thing you will do is curse the meathead that called you with 4th pair to your AK. Then you'll curse yourself for not realizing that bluffs get called 90% of the time at the micro levels. It's just the way it is.
 
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i'm learning to check/raise tptk or better. you'll get called by all sorts of hands. today i had 2 limpers in a $2.25 sng. I shoved QQ preflop got called by both limpers. they had A8s nd A6s the A8 caught a str8 but i cant complain i was way ahead going in. people just dont fold in these. but dont take my advice i get killed in these things.
 
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Bluff less in low limit games and value bet more.
 
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no matter what the stakes bluffing is the biggest risk

It comes into play at higher stakes.

This is because player play correctly, they strive to maximise profit. This means that some flops have certain betting lines with certain hands.

When 2 players are of a decent standard they each know these lines.. its like playing tic-tak-toe. There is just a way of doing it.

So players can then start to bluff.

They play a hand in a way which is consistent with a different betting line (if and when the opertunity arises)

The villian sees this and either falls for the trap or thinks.. hang on he knows I can see the obvious line, he is taking the monster route. I would nearly always fold it and I am sure that he knows this. So why would he take a line that I'm most likely going to fold, if he has this big hand.

So he dosen't have this big hand.... or does he and he still plays it this way because he thinks I will think its a bluff and he has thought about that and still played it this way so I call.



NONE of thios takes place in small stakes games where oppponents cannot value bet correctly and where opponents do not know how to hand read.

So, if you have to ask about bluffing.. chances are you are playing at a level wheere it dosen't work much anyway.
 
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no matter what the stakes bluffing is the biggest risk


not bluffing at all IMO is an even bigger risk. i dont think you can possible win in higher stakes with out bluffing from time to time. but like everything there is a time and place for it. bluffs, semi bluffs, steals and resteals are all part of the game. that being said i do try to keep my bluffing % low at the micro stakes.
 
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Can bluffing in micro sit+go's work when you have high blinds/stack ratio's and 5-6-7 opps? It's almost like playing
near the bubble (pay three) with alot of min betting and folding with no
one willing to risk busting out. Avoid the one or two big stacks and
pick your spot. I'm learning how to play sit+go's and this "bubble like"
condition has come up a few times.
 
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advice when playing micro stakes. Play super super ultra tight. only get involved with quality hands as u will win most hands most of the time and ur opponents ar to poor and inexpierienced to pick u on the fact ur playing super tight so they will still give u action. Also i reccomend never bluffing. U get called down by such weak hands all the time as most players at these levels are too stupid to comprehend how they could possibly be behind whilst holding A2 on a AKQ flop.....
 
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DO NOT BLUFF, i have been nailed, on a bluff, all coz someone had LOW pair.
Thought next time he called me and i killed him for playing crap....
 
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Before you start bluffing, I would suggest that you observe your opponent(s) for a few rounds to figure out who is tight, who is loose, who is a maniac, who is a calling station, and who can laydown hands. If you find a call station, I wouldn't bluff, I'd wait for a nice hand and value bet them to death. If they get anything, they will follow you to the river.

Oh yeah, table image does matter. If you are known a tight aggressive player who only puts out pot sized bets because you have the nuts, that will help you bluff your opponents as the tourney progresses. Don't over emphasize this tho, some players just don't get it.

I would pay close attention to the 3 players on your left. Those are the players you are going to be stealing from the most.
 
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